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A new law that takes effect in California on Jan.1, 2023 maintains that police officers, including trainees, be legally authorized to work in the United States while abiding by federal laws and regulations. SB 960 will, however, remove the requirement that peace officers be citizens or permanent residents of the United States.
QUESTION: Do you think you should have to be a citizen of the United States to be a police officer in the United States?
Talk about it….
YES, most definitely. Corruptifornia continues its downward spiral towards a complete implosion…
Absolutely. The constitution that an officer swears to defend and protect should mean enough to the individual to complete the naturalization process before employment or training in law enforcement.
A completely rational approach with a path that people who already live here would mostly be OK with it. Doesn’t happen too often in California that such a suggestion has that kind of clarity, and also not likely to find it’s way to either The Assembly or State Senate due to political alignment.
Not just the police, but every occupation. If they are in the country illegally, then they should not be allowed to legally work, buy real estate, buy and register a car, or rent property. If we make it tough for them to survive in the US, then maybe they will self deport back to where they came from.
Even the US does not require citizenship….
Citizenship is required for only certain positions/jobs where top secret or other technology or information is handled.
If you are going to upload the laws of this country, you need to swear by the constitution. If you are not a citizen, can you really swear true allegiance to the United States?
You must be a citizen in my mind to be any type of Law Enforcement. .
I think you should have to be a citizen of the United States to be in the United States, period!
You do realize that the US would be very sparsely populated then, since you cannot apply for citizenship until you are here. You can however come here legally on a green card or other visas and then apply for citizenship.
All the better.
Sparsely populated … alright! Fewer people on the highways, less crowded stores. plenty of housing, more open space … like it used to be when it was liveable. Studies have shown that overcrowding leads to more fractious encounters, violence, and neurosis in the population. What’s not to like?
You might like it, and I might agree. However, would you yourself be here if your ancestors had not immigrated here? Keep in mind without immigration we would not have German, Irish, Italian, and Scandinavian immigrants, as well as many others.
I’m Native American.
GittyUp, Even though as a native American would you rather no immigrants had come to the US, I’m not talking about recent years, but rather back when people came from Ireland, Germany, Italy and Scandinavia. You past post suggest you have a problem with a certain part of the population, if you are a native american surely you most at some point been discriminated against.
Spot is a dog.
Spot the dog has brown and white spots.
The dog that barks all day has brown and white spots.
Therefore, the dog that barks is Spot the dog.
Yes, without exception.
Without question ABSOLUTELY
Then again this is DEM-a-stupid-fornia
I love it – so very true!
Nah…. we could use some Mexican Cops here.
Mexican Police let you pay your traffic tickets instantly, no court dates necessary (and it doesn’t even go on your record).
If there’s a misunderstanding between bar patrons and some furniture gets broke in the ruckus… a few bucks oughta take care of it.
Jail overcrowding? It won’t happen as long as you have cash.
Uh……yeah? Who’s stupid idea is this one? E-verify, background check, must generally be an upstanding citizen otherwise who is coming to help you…some felon that changed his name when he came here to avoid jail????? and now is a police officer and you gave them a gun? I see we are in good hands “Bravo!”
There’s a difference between illegal and not a citizen. I came here on a green card, could not even apply for citizenship for 5 years. Lots of people are here on green card, and companies do check. I could not have gotten my insurance license if l was not legal, but could with a green card. I use to do staffing for a home care agency, we employed people with green cards, but not illegal. As a green card holder you pay same taxes as a citizen and is entitled to social security and other benefits, because you paid into the system. However, you cannot vote.
Interesting assumption that every immigrant is an illegal alien.
If a police department isn’t capable of figuring out whether someone is qualified and/or morally upstanding enough to do the job when they hire, we’ve got a lot bigger problems than whether or not they are a citizen.
Not that much of an assumption when we are overrun with illegals, but those illegals seem to have more rights than American citizens.
How hard is it to become a citizen if you are here legally? Of course they should be a citizen.
You have to be here 5 ears unless you marry an American then 3 years
You do have to pass a test, but it’s pretty elementary.
I don’t understand why we need to expand the net – with all the BLMers and Defund The Police supporters surely they are willing to signup and bring all their brilliant solutions for better policing. They seem to really understand what the job takes and how to better at it – now is your time to signup people!!!
“ The San Francisco Police Department is warning the city could see a loss of 300 officers by the end of December, resulting in the department being short over 800 officers heading into 2023.”
With 800 vacancies just in SF I think you need to start looking at other ways to fill these positions. Citizenship should be a mandatory requirement on an accelerate path – weeds out those who are serious about the job. If they can’t pas citi process they probably won’t pass academy.
In my city of Framingham Massachusetts and in the whole Commonwealth $46 million has been appropriated to give people unlawfully and illegally in the country English language courses. This goes against federal law and basically is unconstitutional but the corrupt politicians and School Committee get away with it….
“A new law that takes effect in California on Jan.1, 2023 MAINTAINS that police officers, including trainees, be legally authorized to work in the United States”
So why exactly was this needed, the statue already existed.
A lot of people seem very confused about who is illegals, and where they work. I heard a radio show host saying that illegals worked at Starbucks, McDonald, etc. I can assure you big national companies do not hire illegals, the do hire people who are here legally either with a green card, or some other visa that allows them to work. Illegals mostly work for small independent businesses such as your local dry cleaner, perhaps some local restuarants, home care, construction, landscape companies etc.
@Hanne Jeppersen You appear to be wanting to pick a fight with me. You might want to ask yourself why.
Not looking for a fight just clarification. If you think everyone should be a citizen BEFORE coming here and you are a native American, means you think the US should be populated with mostly native American s?
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