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The Water Cooler – Safe Injections Sites In The Bay Area – Good Or Bad Idea?

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The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it.

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon.

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QUESTION: Are you for or against Safe Injection Sites in the Bay Area? FYI: Safe Injection Sites are places where people who use injectable, but illegal drugs such as heroin, can do so with limited fear of overdose, prosecution or spreading disease.

Talk about it….

31 comments

Simonpure January 23, 2023 - 12:38 PM - 12:38 PM

GROSS

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Rich January 23, 2023 - 12:41 PM - 12:41 PM

No injection site (AKA Opium Den) Currently the druggie problem is self correcting

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Ricardoh January 23, 2023 - 12:49 PM - 12:49 PM

Bring your own killer drug to a safe injection site so they can bring you back to life so you can try the same trick tomorrow. Either put them in rehab or let them die. What they are doing is no way to live. Safe injection sites are government sponsored drug addition. At least try to do the right thing. Force them into rehab. They may thank you for it.

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WC---Creeker January 23, 2023 - 1:01 PM - 1:01 PM

It’d be nice, I’d feel more comfortable trying heroin with medical staff there to prevent me from dying… the purpose of the sites is to prevent infection and death, hmm, preventing people from shooting drugs will do that also.

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Ricardoh January 23, 2023 - 1:53 PM - 1:53 PM

No it is to allow them to come back tomorrow for the same sick thing. A slow agonizing death compared to a fast one.

Exit 12A January 23, 2023 - 1:08 PM - 1:08 PM

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Dumbest idea EVER.
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Let them die. No sympathy from me or the vast majority of my associates.
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And how about securing the border to address drug smuggling?

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PESFG January 23, 2023 - 3:39 PM - 3:39 PM

What about those who are already in? Drug smuggling is being done throughout the country. I’ve read that gang members (drug smuggling “businessmen”) can’t be denied U.S citizenships since there is no law banning it. https://cis.org/Report/Denaturalization-and-Gang-Membership

PO'd January 23, 2023 - 1:10 PM - 1:10 PM

No way. It’ll only bring many more addicts to die in SF on the taxpayers’ dollar. It’s time
to let them die if they choose this behavior as a “lifestyle”. Let’s follow the science-Darwin
was correct.
The homeless are a big industry/bureaucracy in SF, therefore not willing to change, and won’t
admit that what they are doing isn’t helping anybody. 99% refuse any help with conditions, so
they grow until OD ending. Not a solution.

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TTD January 23, 2023 - 1:18 PM - 1:18 PM

Just move all the homeless (those who don’t want help) to one central location. Provide government sponsored food and shelter. They are not allowed to leave unless they have a become drug free, went to counseling, have a job and have a sponsor that will be responsible for them. Hopefully, this will clean up the cities, reduce crime and the quality of life improves. Keep the homeless, trash, and crime in one location. Let them implode instead of taking the rest of society down.

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Dorothy January 23, 2023 - 1:24 PM - 1:24 PM

No. I don’t see where it helps anyone except drug dealers. Used to be using illegal drugs was as illegal as selling them. Instead of coddling drug user, hit the drug sellers HARD! Take everything away from the sellers and put them away same as murders.

The Mamba January 23, 2023 - 1:30 PM - 1:30 PM

No, the government shouldn’t be aiding and abetting drug addicts, by doing so they are implicitly endorsing their actions which will lead to more misery and death. Being a drug addict should be difficult and have consequences, that’s what leads people to bottom out and find their way back. Ask any recovered addict.

Angry American January 23, 2023 - 1:30 PM - 1:30 PM

just adding to the dystopian hellscape at the tax payers expense. Start spending that tax money on sanatoriums again to help people get better that need and want the help, might have a light at the end of the tunnel for some that isn’t a train.

Klem January 23, 2023 - 1:37 PM - 1:37 PM

One of the stupider ideas floated by ignorant politicians and “pat yourself on the back” crazies. If you walk through the door, you immediately go to inpatient drug rehab and/or inpatient mental health care. Nothing changes if nothing changes…

WC January 23, 2023 - 1:44 PM - 1:44 PM

Put them in the marijuana stores.

parent January 23, 2023 - 1:50 PM - 1:50 PM

So let me understand this, you want to provide a place where criminals can conduct illegal activities in a safe setting? Please say that out loud … think about that … CRIMINALS … a safe place for CRIMINALS to do ILLEGAL activities …

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Ricardoh January 23, 2023 - 2:03 PM - 2:03 PM

I have some sympathy for these addicts. I would bet that before they took their first hit if they could see what they would look like in a couple of years they may not have taken it. Drug sellers are beyond a doubt killers and should be treated as such. No mercy.

nytemuvr January 23, 2023 - 2:48 PM - 2:48 PM

@RICARDOH….Do you really think that hard core junkies worry about their looks? Does the 400 lb. person shoving fast food in their face everyday worry about their looks?….I think not.

Ricardoh January 24, 2023 - 9:50 AM - 9:50 AM

Seems you misread what I wrote. Try again.

domo January 23, 2023 - 2:16 PM - 2:16 PM

Craziest strategy ever – no way….. and I don’t want a dime of my tax dollars going to support it

FPN January 23, 2023 - 2:19 PM - 2:19 PM

Why not invest in rehab. But while we are thinking out of the box how about closing the boarders and get the Hispanic cartel out of California’s Mountain areas.

Anon January 23, 2023 - 2:22 PM - 2:22 PM

So menthol cigarettes are bad for you(which they are) but here let me help you inject heroin into your veins safely! Make it make sense! 🤷‍♀️

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Exit 12A January 23, 2023 - 3:08 PM - 3:08 PM

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Unfortunately, it does make sense to looney liberals, progressives, and lawmakers like Barbara Lee, Ted Lieu, and Scott Wiener.
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Dawg January 23, 2023 - 3:11 PM - 3:11 PM

Local government is normalizing drug abuse. They are encouraging the horrible, living nightmare of addiction, The safe sites only offer medical assistance at the time of injection, but offer nothing afterward. They are also encouraging a life of crime, and violence. Addicts usually steal to support their habit, and a lot of them will turn to prostitution. The dealers won’t hesitate to kill when a drug deal goes bad. Think about the drive-by shootings, and the freeway shootings, how many of them are because of a drug deal gone bad? The cycle of addiction is a miserable way to live and will eventually lead to death.
I worked at a methadone clinic for 13 years as an RN, and I have seen how drugs destroyed many lives. Not all addicts are bums off the street, some of my patients had a good life with everything going for them before drugs took over. They weren’t what most people picture an addict to be. Quite a few of them were lawyers, police officers, college professors, businessmen and businesswomen. They lost it all, their family, their home, and their jobs. Encouraging drug abuse is another way for the government to take control of peoples lives.

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Original G January 23, 2023 - 4:18 PM - 4:18 PM

For a chemically dependent person to get clean n sober they have to hit a personal bottom where they decide for themselves they are sick n tired of being sick n tired and never want to be that way again.
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Politicians decided in their infantile wisdom they know how to “FIX IT”.
Having a “safe spot” for addicts to shoot up means what, if they OD then they can be saved ? ? ?
Wonderful, means tomorrow they can shot up again ? ? ?
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Addiction is one thing, . . . . A SLOW FORM OF SUICIDE ! ! !
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“Proposition 47 and Proposition 57 decriminalized many laws. Proposition 47 (2014) downgraded many felonies to misdemeanors; Proposition 57 (2016) reduced prison sentences and reclassified violent crimes as “non-violent,” and in 2011, Assembly Bill 109, Gov. Jerry Brown’s “prison realignment” scheme, shifted detainees from state prisons to local jails, overwhelming county jails. These have been a disaster for public safety, taking away the tools courts need to rehabilitate drug offenders, opening the door for rampant retail theft, and reclassifying violent crimes as “non-violent.””
Katy Grimes caglobe https://tinyurl.com/2w5wbasf https://tinyurl.com/5n6mddd5
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AB-109 took away a time tested way for Judges to force people to get clean n sober.
Upon felony conviction Judge would impose a lengthy state prison term, which was immediately stayed and defendant was put on probation, 3-5 years. Random drug testing, they had to get and hold a job and not commit any new crimes. Violation of probation could result in implementation o state prison term.
A very large incentive to get and stay clean.
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IF a person goes before a Judge on a misdemeanor charge these days and it’s determined addiction is involved. Upon conviction Judge asks if they’d like to go thru a program, most say no. Because of AB-109 many Felons sentenced to over a year and a day spend their sentence in County Jail not state prison, causing jail overcrowding. Some CA counties have people in their jails doing multi year sentences.
Addict knows because of overcrowding they’ll be done with their incarceration in a mere fraction of their sentence is.
They’ll be back on the street long before a 90 day addiction treatment program would end, their addiction intact. Possibly doing crime to support their habit.
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But what else can we expect from DEMs running this state ? ?
Their mirror worshiping Hubris is endless.

Original G January 23, 2023 - 5:57 PM - 5:57 PM

Remember SF’s ‘Good Idea’, safe zone for shooting up that failed miserably and was shut down.
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Report card on current conditions in the wonder city newsom helped run Member of the
San Francisco Board of Supervisors In office 1997 – 2004 then Mayor of San Francisco 2004 – 2011.
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What decades of DEMs running a city looks like !
‘It looked like dystopia’: San Fran tech executive describes trip to downtown bar that left her ‘scared’ where ‘hundreds’ of homeless people and ‘drug addicts’ were ‘folded over’ outside shuttered businesses’
dailymail https://tinyurl.com/5dwr9k24

Gittyup January 23, 2023 - 6:08 PM - 6:08 PM

Why encourage them?

The Fearless Spectator January 23, 2023 - 6:20 PM - 6:20 PM

I’m all for it with one caveat: They not only include safe injection rooms, but also safe assisted suicide rooms. Life is a series of choices. Either choice delivers them to the same place; one just happens to be an express lane.

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Cautiously Informed January 23, 2023 - 8:29 PM - 8:29 PM

Isn’t that happening, here in Wokeaforina, the liberals paradise?

SAM January 23, 2023 - 9:22 PM - 9:22 PM

You choose that life, you can shoot up in a creek bed under a grimy overpass. Just another taxpayer scam to flow money from us to politicians favorite 501c3 who in turn donate to their re election. Wash, rinse, repeat.

American Citizen January 24, 2023 - 10:47 AM - 10:47 AM

Open the site. Let them come in and arrest them on charges of violating state narcotics act. Throw them in prison and let them detox the natural way. They kill people for drug use in Saudi Arabia and Malaysia. Not much drug crime there. We should follow suit.

Gittyup January 24, 2023 - 6:26 PM - 6:26 PM

The State of California, the US of A, in fact, has an excellent, workable, and successful model for curlailing unwanted behavior of this sort. It is the one implemented in the nationwide push years ago to make smokng an unattractive behavior. It is proven to work and it suceeded in eliminating the behavior in millions of individuals by the use of public service announcements on radio and television, billboards dedicated to the cause, and the move to make smoking a behavior that was just generally considered ugly and passe. It worked for smoking. It will work for other drug use, as well. But, first you have to make it an unattractive habit.

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