The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it.
The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday at noon.
Today’s question:
Sooner or later, the major store theft (grab & run of a lot of products at once) will have to come to an end. Whether the stores permanently close, lock everything up, or district attorneys actually start prosecuting the criminals responsible, it has to come to an end at some point in time.
QUESTION: How do you think it will end?
Right now the solution is a mystery
Talk about it….
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Prosecute to the fullest. Fullest needs to be revamped.
Enforcement and prosecution
it will only stop when the laws on the books are followed and criminals are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which obviously isnt being done.
AKA when we start cutting people hands off when they steal like they did in the old days. Criminal will learn real quick, or they just wont have hands anymore,
Looks like the down vote criminal(s) want to keep their hands. Unfortunately.
It will come to an end when thieves quit stealing. The stores lock up expensive items, but not everything. And if we wait for Becton to prosecute, we’ll all be dead.
it might not stop it totally, but, if just like Costco and Walmart does, have some people at outgoing door(s), checking receipts, goods in basket(s), just might cut losses of people think they can run out the door. There is no total end to this kind of stuff happening.
Theft will be reduced.. When the Political structure.. DA Office.. Gov Office says it needs to be REALLY dealt with.. in a Strong Way .. Not with a Coddling. Enabling approach.. When the Citizens Say they will NOT support a Soft on Crime approach. And show that with their VOTES..
Voting out the Democrat politicians, judges and bureaucrats.. is the only way it’s going to happen. They are the ones supporting all the criminals running loose.
It will never end if the perps are not locked up for a good amount of time. Eventually the pendulum will swing but not very soon. The woke are still in charge. Cancel culture still has the cowards in a closet. It is disgusting.
90 Days County Jail for all persons caught.
That is just a vacation for them. We need three strikes for any theft or major crime and you are OUT. Like, out of this world. No appeals, no drawn-out court that wastes money.
I don’t know, maybe the stores that allow this theft to continue without doing anything about it will close up. Their idea to fight shoplifting is to inconvenience their customers by locking up merchandise, and forcing us to hunt down an employee for assistance. Personally, I don’t like the idea, and I will not shop at a store that think inconveniencing their customers is the answer. If the commercials I see on TV is any indication of what kind of people are running these large corporations, I will conclude that they are run by liberals because most commercials these days seem to be making some kind of political statement, and they are getting exactly what they voted for.
Stores are not looking the other way because they don’t care. They are doing so because all the incentives and disincentive have lined up to force them to. The liability for stopping shoplifters is extremely high. Anyone gets hurt, they get sued. Anyone gets wrongfully stopped, they get sued. One of their own gets hurt, they get sued. Arrest the wrong person, or too many of one type of person, and ANTIFA and BLM show up to “protest,” smashing your reputation in the compliant media, and your physical store. If you think businesses have forgotten that little unpleasantness in 2020 where they all had to board up their windows and donate to the terrorists organizations for protection, you are misinformed.
Nor do they want to lock up items. They wait as long as possible to do so, until the theft gets so bad they are losing money. They know that locking the items up will cost them sales and hurt their business. They know locked cases mark them as “ghetto,” inducing patrons to shop somewhere else that doesn’t yet have them.
We are living in a society with break down of basic law and order. This is a much bigger problem than corporations can address. They are downstream of the same sociopolitical forces that are causing the theft, homelessness, and property destruction.
They could try finding their courage and speaking out about all this, though, instead of parroting the official regime propaganda and staying silent on the problem.
Courage and pushing back is the only way forward out of this.
Would any of the 12 people who downvoted me care to explain why they think I am wrong?
and here I was thinking today’s water cooler would be asking if you would watch the State of the Union tonight….
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No !
I believe most stores try to do what they can to stop this. Security can’t be everywhere at once. If someone is brazen enough to run into a store and crab whatever is closest to the exit, it is very hard to stop. Best thing is to have someone by the door, and though they might not be able to stop it, if they are quick enough they could copy down the license plate of the car waiting right outside. Having said that thiefs do get caught, both by store security and also by mall security. Liberal or conservative is not the issue, I don’t anyone that condone this kind of crime or make excuses for it. I do agree it seems to be out of hand these days, or could be because of social media we are more aware of everything. I buy face creams, moisturizers from CVS, usually, but now some are locked up, and it discourage me from buying them, although I do so at times if I really want the item and the price is right. As for CVS it varies from store to store what is locked up, so I try to buy from they ones where they are not locked up, or I go to Ulta.
Liberal vs conservative IS the issue. If you voted for Diana Becton last election, then you helped enable
anyone who steals for a living.
You have to ask yourself: Why are stores locking up merchandise where they didn’t before until recently?
AB 109, Prop 47 were championed by left wing activists, and contributed to the mess we have today.
DAs like Becton are agenda motivated. Not law enforcement motivated.:
And just because she was a judge once upon a time doesn’t mean she is gonna be hard on criminals.
If the DA refuses to pursue the case, then what incentive is there ? The police arrest the POS and the DA doesn’t file? They’re just turned loose to pull that $hit again.
It IS a democrat/liberal problem.
Well liberal or conservative IS the issue. Liberals want to open jails and put criminals in programs that don’t work well
Conservatives want criminals locked away from the rest of us.
Don’t believe me? Newsom is closing entire prisons and letting crooks go.
I agree with you Hanne not everything is political. But I guess some people here are just watching propaganda and simply parrot the talking points. Clearly smash and grab theft is happening both in liberal as well as in conservative states. Some people should try to use google some day it’s really not that hard.
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Also the US has one of the highest incarceration rate which tells you that incarceration doesn’t seem the deterrent from crime some people believe. Because many other countries with lower incarceration rates have lower crime rates
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I just got to love how people can boldly claim that Prop 47 was championed by left wing activists. I guess that makes Newt Gingrich and Rand Paul left wing activists. and probably Diane Feinstein MAGA.
My point was none of my liberal friends are okay with the smash and grab, nor do they make excuses. Also l heard several commentators and radio talk show host condemning this crime in the strongest term
However, l guess that doesn’t fit into the conservative narrative. They like to lump us all together, they want it to be them against us. To be fair there are liberals who want to do the same with conservatives. Usually people and issues are more complex.
Ask your liberal friends if they voted for Becton: that’s all you need to know on this subject. She easily
won re-election.
Theft is happening in both areas because the thieves travel. Seriously. Don’t be like that. Open your eyes.
1) Prosecute to the fullest any crime, regardless of cost of material stolen. Post their pictures on the outside of the stores as person non grata.
2) The stores will close and will only open in a place that prosecutes criminals and/or allows security guards to stop the low life criminals.
Unfortunately, I only see option 2 happening because our local and state ‘government/dictatorship’ would not want to lose their voting pool.
..agree with most of the comments here – they look like they’ll apply to larger stores… the mom & pops though, if it keeps getting worse I think they’ll start to taking into their own hands
It is beyond time to bring back a bit of the Wild Wild West.
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When it is punishable by death or loss of a hand.
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THAT is true deterrence.
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Under current leadership or current laws, it’s not going to diminish in any meaningful way. Eventually,
stores will cut bait and close, and the voters will keep sending hard left wing Demos to positions of
authority. Very predictable-It doesn’t end.
It will end when either all the brick and mortar stores close because they can’t afford to stay open, or the consequences for stealing start to outweigh the benefits.
I’m guessing it’s not going to be the latter, at least in California.
It will come to an end when the stores go out of business. Then people will just shop online, wait then the thieves will just steal the packages from our doorstep. So, really it won’t end. It’s the way of the world.
When the words “accountability and responsibility” are reintroduced in California’s legal system.
Well said.
However I’ve never seen “Accountability and Responsibility” appear in the same sentence with “California”.
Have a guard at the door, when someone walks out with a bunch of stuff, as they get to the doorway the guard presses a remote and tasers hit the shoplifter, they get shocked and drop all the stuff. Staff can pickup the goods and take them back in the store. The shoplifter recovers and runs away.
There will always be people who want to steal. I don’t think anything or anyone can stop that.
Fence off a large section of uninhabited land. Give each thief food, water, a tent, and a knife. Each thief will have been sentenced to a specific term. Each thief will have to survive in that desolate place with other thieves for their entire sentence. When their sentence is complete, they are set free with no record and they can build their lives again. If they do commit a crime, back they go for good.
Major store theft will end when the general public decides that corporal punishment is not out of the question.
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Public lashing like places in Indonesia.
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I hereby volunteer to dole out the punishments.
Perhaps the government doesn’t want the theft to end. It justifies police presence, mass surveillance, tracking devices etc.
t would start ending if social media ended and people could curb their anger with helping others instead of hurting others. It will get better when Biden and Newsom are voted out along with their insane policies and open borders.
You know things are out of control when you go to Target in Pleasant Hill to buy $1.29 liquid hand soaps and they are behind a locked case now. I would say that we need to go back to basics and hold the individuals accountable for theft. The way things are set up now the benefits outweigh the risks for the thieves so their mindset is ‘why not?’ Meanwhile hard-working, law-abiding citizens are made to pay higher prices to cover the losses. I also think we need to stop with the rinse and repeat voting. What we currently have (not to mention re-elected knowing it was not working) is well…still *NOT* working.
‘Migrants bused to New York City from Texas are arrested after ‘shoplifting’ $12,489 from Macy’s store on Long Island’
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Think there’s even a remote chance they’ll be deported?
The technical term is “shrinkage,” which I am sure is not new information. The most recent figures for retail shrinkage as of today, 2.7.23, are the averages from 2021. According to the. National Retail Survey
(https://nrf.com/media-center/press-releases/nrf-reports-retail-shrink-nearly-100b-problem ), shrinkage accounted for 1.44% of a stores annual sales figures.
It wasn’t explicitly laid out within the linked article the time frame, but the fiscal year as defined by the IRS was October 1, 2020 – September 30th, 2021. In short, the figure does encompass a period of time within the COVID regulations.
1.44% was considered only a slight rise from the previous year’s figures, but a reduction from the last 5 years of averaged shrinkage measured at 1.5%
Retail business have made $1 billion more than last year. Since 2009, retail sales have been rising every year since.
This is not a partisan issue. This is not about political affiliation, ideology, or one’s adhearance to a particular money system. Retail theft will go down when people can afford to pay for their basic needs with what they earn working 40 hours a week.
It has little to do with the punitive measures taken by law enforcement and municipalities. The current inflation is very much based in greed.
So, so wrong.
If I want something and I can’t afford it then I can steal it. It’s not my fault it’s the greedy store owner’s fault. This kind of thinking is why our once great society is falling apart.
What’s a backhoe rent for these days?
I lean towards liberal, but I’m sick of this s**t and the people getting away with it. So brazen and entitled. I think CA is simply afraid to prosecute people of color for fear of lawsuits claiming racism.
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