The Water Cooler The Water Cooler – Will You Use California’s High-Speed Rail? by CLAYCORD.com August 29, 2023 - 12:00 PM August 29, 2023 - 12:00 PM 64 comments The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it. The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday in the noon hour. QUESTION: If/when California’s high-speed rail is ever completed, will you use it? Advertisement Talk about it…. Share 0 FacebookTwitterPinterestEmail previous post Congressman DeSaulnier Joins Food Bank Of Contra Costa And Solano For Hunger Roundtable next post Spare The Air Alert Issued For Wednesday Due To Smog 64 comments JJ August 29, 2023 - 12:12 PM - 12:12 PM Yup. 12 16 Roz August 29, 2023 - 12:16 PM - 12:16 PM No. 28 8 cheeseburguesa August 29, 2023 - 12:16 PM - 12:16 PM No. And we’ll all be dead and gone before it is completed. 60 6 Crazytech August 29, 2023 - 1:08 PM - 1:08 PM Got that right, unless a child is reading this, will be another 20 years before they get it truly running anywhere we would like to go…… waste of money 35 3 CJRN August 30, 2023 - 8:13 AM - 8:13 AM I was thinking the same. I have no to desire to go to where that train is going, and I’ll be dead before it goes anywhere! 5 2 Original G August 29, 2023 - 12:18 PM - 12:18 PM NO and NO . HSR is a monument to gross DEM incompetence. 43 9 S August 29, 2023 - 12:23 PM - 12:23 PM Doubtful 9 4 Angry American August 29, 2023 - 12:32 PM - 12:32 PM Rode the high speed rail in Japan many times and thought it was fantastic. I would like to see Ca get its s#!t together and do like them but I am afraid it will never happen and we are wasting money. If they actually get it done I would ride it. 17 16 DOH August 29, 2023 - 4:19 PM - 4:19 PM Japan is bigger and has more destinations. Here we have SF and LA, maybe San Diego. 6 11 Angry American August 31, 2023 - 2:04 PM - 2:04 PM Japan landmass 145,936 mi² Ca landmass 163,696 mi² facts and figures escape us sometimes. 3 3 TN guy August 30, 2023 - 5:57 AM - 5:57 AM I was on the bullet Train in Japan last year. Very clean. If you even put your shoe on the seat in front of you they will tell you to remove it. Complete opposite of BART. Cali will NEVER get anything like that. Homeless are eyeing up a new home. 10 1 Angry American August 31, 2023 - 3:40 PM - 3:40 PM and the seats that turn around when it changes direction. Freaked me out when a Japanese man walked up to me and told me to get up “here that means entirely something different” but he was simply asserting to me that the train would change directions before it left the station. very cool! 1 2 Ricardoh August 29, 2023 - 12:33 PM - 12:33 PM Maybe if I am still alive when it is done. 13 11 Paul August 29, 2023 - 12:42 PM - 12:42 PM No thank you. I take a flight if I want to travel at high speed. 18 12 Old Timer August 29, 2023 - 12:43 PM - 12:43 PM Lmao that will never happen.It will be just like Bart dirty broke and riddled with corruption and crime. 31 8 Dr. Jellyfinger August 29, 2023 - 5:42 PM - 5:42 PM And it will derail or be shut down when the weather is too hot. 17 6 Simonpure August 29, 2023 - 12:44 PM - 12:44 PM Nope and I think the money would be better spent adding another lane on Hwy 5 in both directions. 33 6 Frank August 29, 2023 - 3:26 PM - 3:26 PM You are absolutely correct. but who wants to go to LA with no car? Business meeting are mostly zoomed now. Waste of our money 20 8 Angry American August 29, 2023 - 4:49 PM - 4:49 PM good luck with that….remember these socialists don’t want us to drive so they don’t care if you have a hard time in traffic. pedestrian problems to them. 10 9 Ricardoh August 30, 2023 - 8:33 AM - 8:33 AM I like it when you are stuck behind a truck passing another truck going a half a mile per hour faster than the truck he is passing. Then he has to clear the truck by a hundred feet before pulling over to the right lane. All the gas tax we pay and nothing gets done. Better yet is when a whole line of trucks are doing the same thing. 5 6 domo August 29, 2023 - 12:47 PM - 12:47 PM HSR from nowhere to nowhere? no way… what a super waste of taxpayer money…. and this was one of Newscum’s campaign promises that he was going to stop because of cost and lack of enough use to pay for itself… what a joke 24 6 Martinezmike August 29, 2023 - 12:47 PM - 12:47 PM No. Agree it will never be completed. You would have more luck standing in line for Mr. toads wild ride. 22 4 PESFG August 29, 2023 - 12:48 PM - 12:48 PM NO At the rate is being built, it is highly probable that I will be long deceased. By the time is finally built, ticket prices will also be unaffordable. Look at BARF, riding it is not cheap despite being an outdated system and very unsafe. How are they going to make sure that this train is safe to ride and that people won’t sneak in without paying? Are we going to have the same problem of people using it as their getaway transport? The focus should be on improving all of our current public transport, Amtrak, BARF, County Connection, etc. Can’t establish something new when what we already have is wasted funds because it isn’t working. 21 3 Jojo The Circus Clown August 29, 2023 - 1:04 PM - 1:04 PM Use what … when … how … where … #followthemoney 6 10 whenwilltheylearn August 29, 2023 - 1:06 PM - 1:06 PM will never be complreted or used ever,most of the money gas been embezzled,like fort knox 10 10 Hammerhead August 29, 2023 - 1:32 PM - 1:32 PM Let Musk and Bezos each build competing trains systems, then yes. Both would be safe, affordable, and finished in a year. 10 8 WC August 29, 2023 - 1:43 PM - 1:43 PM Yeah, I’m driving out to Madera so I can ride it to Bakersfield, said no one ever. 25 3 idiots everywhere August 29, 2023 - 1:51 PM - 1:51 PM I don’t really have a need to go from Merced to Bakersfield. Let me know when there is a plan to make it go any further. What a joke. 24 3 Exit 12A August 29, 2023 - 1:54 PM - 1:54 PM No. The current system doesn’t go anywhere of specific interest. It’s easier and more convenient to drive. . The first segment should have been between LA and Las Vegas. . 16 6 ClayDen August 29, 2023 - 6:47 PM - 6:47 PM Only if the casinos and other Las Vegas businesses paid for it. 6 4 Danged ineffectual August 29, 2023 - 1:56 PM - 1:56 PM Of course I will. 2 22 Wesley Mouch August 29, 2023 - 2:34 PM - 2:34 PM It did its job. Securing the retirements of numerous grifters and donors. 22 5 Never Enough August 29, 2023 - 3:09 PM - 3:09 PM Last week I flew from Oak to LAX, left the house at 4:30 AM for a 6:00 AM flight. I was in an Uber heading to the office by 7:00AM. 11 3 Throw The Book... August 29, 2023 - 3:33 PM - 3:33 PM If China becomes insolvent then we should hire their engineering/installation staff to complete our high-speed rail project within 6 months. This is the answer… 10 8 Throw The Book... August 30, 2023 - 6:42 PM - 6:42 PM I am beginning to think as if I am in a restaurant kitchen making soup. Instead of one spoon in the soup there are thousands and there are hundreds of chefs. Not only that but the cost of the soup on the menu is hundreds of times higher than it is worth. Just a question. Is democracy a non-functioning old idea that is not relevant in the new modern world? We are going backwards instead of forwards…why? 3 3 Dorothy August 29, 2023 - 3:53 PM - 3:53 PM The correct question would be: Will it ever be finished? Answer: Not in the rest of my lifetime. 11 5 Bob August 29, 2023 - 4:09 PM - 4:09 PM Yes, when the Central Valley section opens it will be a two hour train ride from Martinez to see my family in Fresno/Clovis. 5 American Citizen August 29, 2023 - 4:14 PM - 4:14 PM I actually spend a lot of time riding in Amtrak from the Bay Area to Los Angeles. Unfortunately, there is a bus bridge between Bakersfield and LA County. I find Amtrak to be very convenient, comfortable, and much less of a hassle than air travel. If there was a high-speed rail, I would definitely take it. Unfortunately, it will never happened within my lifetime because of democratic incompetence and the corruption of the unions. In other countries, this is not a problem. 17 11 Just Saying August 29, 2023 - 4:22 PM - 4:22 PM Sounds like BART 2.0 I think that a lot of things that work in other countries won’t work here because we don’t live in a homogeneous society. 9 2 Abe August 29, 2023 - 4:46 PM - 4:46 PM At best, I have 25 years left. It won’t be done in my lifetime. CA taxpayers will be paying for it forever. 10 2 Worried August 29, 2023 - 5:30 PM - 5:30 PM I’ll be dead and gone long before that thing’s ever completed if ever completed it’s really just a money grab for Democrats 12 1 Antlers006 August 29, 2023 - 6:29 PM - 6:29 PM No way. That will be spirit airlines on the ground. 5 4 The Wizard August 29, 2023 - 6:51 PM - 6:51 PM I rather ride the Pixie Playland train, atleast you get to see the ducks in the pond. 12 1 ClayDen August 29, 2023 - 6:58 PM - 6:58 PM If you time it right to avoid traffic and don’t waste time stopping along the way, LA is 6 hours or less door to door by car, about the same as flying and I don’t have to deal with the hassles of the airport. You then have transportation when you get there. I’ve actually done it in 4:50 from a couple of blocks from LAX to Clayton without going over ~83MPH. I made one short stop for coffee and no gas stop. I’m not averse to flying, as I’ve done hundreds of flights. My wife and I have also been all over Europe on trains, cruise ships and driving and I prefer driving for most of it. We’ve also done many road trips around the U.S., including a couple into Canada. The enviro-whackos are the ones driving the high speed rail boondoggle. 13 3 Hanne Jeppesen August 30, 2023 - 10:33 AM - 10:33 AM I agree, as I wrote in another post, I go to Pasadena several times a year. I prefere to drive, no going through security at the airport. I take longer than you, because I stop 2 perhaps 3 times, it depends. I’m comfortable in my car, I can listen to talk radio or a music station, and I have a car when I get to my destination. I took the high speed train from Gothenberg to Stockholm Sweden, very nice and comfortable. The problem with a train to LA is, LA is so spread out, so you still need some other mode of transportation when you get there. European cities are more compact and the train station is in the middle of town, and then you can walk to many area’s. In Copenhagen, the train station is right across from Tivoli Garden, and you can walk to the City Square and the walking street in about 10 minutes. 4 3 To Do List August 29, 2023 - 7:25 PM - 7:25 PM I might take it once out of curiosity. Hopefully instead of appointing competent people with experience, we get a high speed board of directors from popular vote based on their opinions about school choice and gun control which will deliver a steady supply of idiocy for us to laugh at. 10 2 Ricardoh August 29, 2023 - 8:16 PM - 8:16 PM If the terminals are like the airport I wiill drive. 5 5 Jeff (the other one) August 29, 2023 - 9:10 PM - 9:10 PM If it ever gets completed, it will just be a rail, not high speed. It will cost more to take the modern mode of transportation (circa 1800’s) than flying, and twice the time with half the comfort. The pace this state is going, train will probably just be mobile hostel. So the answer, no. 9 4 Barstoolateds August 30, 2023 - 4:13 AM - 4:13 AM High speed submarine,,,,look at the pictures of the section undercronstruction during this past winters storms 3 3 THE BLACK KNIGHT August 30, 2023 - 5:33 AM - 5:33 AM I’ve ridden high-speed rail in Europe quite a bit and enjoyed my experiences. I’d probably take a trip at least once to try it out. . The state would’ve been better off spending money connecting Bakersfield to Santa Barbara by rail so that would do away with the current bus bridge for Amtrak riders. . The HSR line from Los Angeles to Las Vegas is still in the planning stage and recently passed another hurdle in the planning stage. . Recently, Congressman Mark DeSaulnier had a town hall meeting where transportation was the subject, he criticized the HSR route as one of the problems that has led to massive cost overruns. He said HSR should’ve run down the center of Interstate 5, where a government right-of-way already exists. . One of the big problems with this HSR project is that Burlington-Northern-Santa Fe Railroad can shutdown construction for months at a time during their high freight months. Another problem has been funding, which has led to construction delays. Sacramento is funding about 85% of the project, with Washington, D.C. funding about 15% of the project. There’s currently an effort underway, to not only drastically increase funding, but to also flip those percentages, so that Sacramento will fund 10% – 15%, with Washington, D.C. funding 85% – 90% of this project. It is being sold that this project could be completed within 5-years with Washington, D.C. both providing the majority of funding and also drastically increasing the amout of funding to levels much greater than what Sacramento is currently funding, with the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics as the completion date goal. 14 2 Fed Up August 30, 2023 - 10:31 AM - 10:31 AM You are SFOS, The rail Authority Should have purchases a fleet of planes and set up a perpetuity. Then they could offer cut rate fares forever on something that actually exists. These boobs never learn. Look at the Bay bridge for inspiration! 5 Billion for what? I once had the opportunity to ask the head of Caltrans about building a Causeway with Cables and Towers for decoration for less than a Billion dollars, through his gritted teeth he said “but it wouldn’t be functional” it’s that kind of thinking that will keep us all screwed up. 3 8 Led August 30, 2023 - 2:58 PM - 2:58 PM HSR between LA and Vegas makes sense. So does closing the bus bridge for rail between SF and LA. What makes zero sense is what they’ve actually done with this project. 7 THE BLACK KNIGHT August 30, 2023 - 3:27 PM - 3:27 PM FED UP, . I believe you’re the one that’s SFOS!!! The HSRA would never have bought a fleet of planes and offered cheap fares. The Courts would’ve prevented that from happening, unless all of the passenger airlines were nationalized. 7 Concord Guy August 30, 2023 - 8:21 AM - 8:21 AM Though expensive, the California HSR project is forward-thinking and necessary given depleting fossil fuel resources Though I’ll be elderly when it is completed, I will chose HSR over flying should the HSR travel time meet projections and expectations. 2 14 ClayDen August 30, 2023 - 10:27 AM - 10:27 AM We’ve had a 30-40 year supply of oil for about 100 years…….. 9 2 Rollo Tomasi August 30, 2023 - 3:06 PM - 3:06 PM There you go again throwing around those pesky facts. Don’t forget the once imminent ice age that never happened and all the life-altering damage acid rain was going to cause. 4 1 Concord Guy August 30, 2023 - 5:15 PM - 5:15 PM Whatever the timeline is, fossil fuel is a depleting resource. 2 3 THE BLACK KNIGHT August 31, 2023 - 12:02 PM - 12:02 PM CONCORD GUY, . Fossil fuels may be depleting natural resources, but as technology has changed we’ve continued to find more sources of oil, natural gas, and coal that were previously unknown and we will continue to find more sources of oil, natural gas, and coal, that are currently unknown, well into the future. We currently have enough oil, natural gas, and/or coal to last us hundreds of years. 6 The Fearless Spectator August 31, 2023 - 7:34 PM - 7:34 PM The project, if launched will use Diesel Locomotives. 1 1 Hanne Jeppesen August 30, 2023 - 10:26 AM - 10:26 AM Probably not. My daughter and her family lives by Pasadena. I visit 3-4 times a year. I drive down. By the time you get to the airport, go through security etc. that is already close to 2 hours. Then if I was to fly, I would have to have someone pick me up in the airport, or rent a car. I like having a car when I’m there. I have a girl friend that lives in Palm Springs, and often I visit her the same time. Taking the train would mean I wouldn’t have a car when I got to my destination. Most of the time I don’t encounter much traffic on 5, a couple of times, at Christmas time and in January, the weather was bad, and slowed me down going over the Grapewine, but that is usually not the case. 3 3 Perry August 30, 2023 - 1:16 PM - 1:16 PM The High Speed is DOA. Grand Opening Grand Closing-Jay Z. Here today gone later today- Van Halen. 5 3 Led August 30, 2023 - 2:55 PM - 2:55 PM Yeah, for all the times I need to travel between Fresno and Visalia. It’s gonna be life-changing!!! lol, What a joke. 3 2 Concord Guy August 30, 2023 - 5:13 PM - 5:13 PM Good article in today’s Washington Post about high speed rail projects, and Amtrak, in the United States: https://www.washingtonpost.com/transp ortation/2023/08/30/amtrak-brightline-high-speed-rail/ 1 4 THE BLACK KNIGHT August 31, 2023 - 10:45 AM - 10:45 AM CONCORD GUY, . You’re link doesn’t work. 5 Comments are closed.