QUESTION: Do you think you should have to show ID in order to vote?
The Water Cooler – Do You Think You Should Have To Show I.D. In Order To Vote?
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QUESTION: Do you think you should have to show ID in order to vote?
© Copyright 2007 – 2025 Claycord News & Talk
Yes – a looooong time ago we had to – prior to mail-in ballots ….. maybe it was a local thing
Of course, there’s no valid reason for not showing a valid ID unless you are trying to cheat.
No. When I registered, I already submitted all the legal documents. Secondly, it would be a hassle to check everyone if at the polling place and even if ID were to require, people who commit fraud just use fake ID anyway. Lastly, machine counts the ballots match the voters signatures on the ballots to dmv record so no ID is needed.
Sorry Paul, Real ID solves your supposed problem. Many states already require ID. If you don’t want to wait in line to vote,,,,stay at home
RealID are having to be re-issued because they weren’t done right and they are expensive to get dependingnon which state you were born in. I shouldn’t have to pay $140 to access a right.
The process to vote in texas is:
It literally adds 1-2 minutes to voting. The only reason to not have I.D. requirments is if you have something to hide.
In Texas a hunting license is a valid ID good enough for voting but not a college student ID.
doh,
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The State of Texas allows 7 acceptable forms of photo ID issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety or the U.S. government in order to vote, and a photo ID can be expired by no more than 4-years.
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Texas Drivers License
Texas Election Identification Certificate
Texas Personal Identification Card
Texas Handgun License
U.S. Military Identification Card
U.S. Citizenship Certificate
U.S. Passport Book or Card
I don’t know every ID allowed by Tennessee, but they do accept my VA card.
It is matter of time before real id will be defeated. So maybe biometric is need.
Paul,
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I don’t know where you live and vote, but here in Contra Costa County we don’t sign our ballots.
i vote absentee.
Correction. The people who vote by mail have to sign on the return envelope not on the ballot. I have not voted at a polling place so I don’t know the process at the poll ing place.
https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/voter-registration/vote-mail
All my friends and family vote by mail because we just don’t want to wait in line and we want to vote early.
Paul,
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Anytime I’ve voted in person I’ve never had to wait in a line.
I drop my mail in ballot at the polling place, I must sign the envelop in order for it to count.
Is this a distinction ypu are making because we sign the envelope?
The black knight likes to get minor details right. And when he is right then he is right. All I care is that the state validates voters to keep election integrity.
MFDoom,
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Yes. If citizens, and residents in some parts of the country, were required to sign their ballot, then the state would be taking away their RIGHT to a secret ballot. Also, actually signing the ballot would “spoil” the ballot in many jurisdictions for altering the ballot in a way that it wasn’t intended to be altered and could likely not be counted.
A voter must sign the registrar to vote, not the ballot.
doh,
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For in-person voting at election day polling places in Contra Costa County, the paper registers have been replaced with electronic tablet registers.
Paul,
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California still matches absentee ballot signatures to those on voter registration forms, not DMV records. Many California counties still verify signatures by sight or by a combination of sight and the use of technology.
ABSOLUTELY ! ! !
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‘… Massive 2020 Voter Fraud Uncovered in Michigan …’
https://tinyurl.com/3vk35pks
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Easy to pick out states under democrat control.
‘Map: 29 million Americans live under
new voter ID laws put in place since 2020′
https://tinyurl.com/3syfu69c
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Why voter ID is important
https://tinyurl.com/3yx79dah
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Persons selected for Jury Duty in California are picked
form people who ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE.
‘Voter Fraud Alarm: 449,000 Non-Citizens Reportedly Excused from
Jury Duty in California, Raising Red Flags on Voter Rolls
https://tinyurl.com/4thx52y2
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Naw, California democrats would never rig the system . . . . . . .
Yes.
If you are such a blithering idiot you can’t produce ID you can mail it in, still it should be verified before the ballot is mailed to you AND before being counted.
yes. I knew someone who was denied to vote at her polling place because someone pretended to be her had already voted earlier but no ID was required….
It make me sad that this is even a question.
Absolutely. I don’t understand why this is even a question…………..unless you are trying to rig the vote.
And that is exactly why it is a question because the Dems absolutely are trying to rig the vote.
Yes, 100%
36 states already have this law. CNN nationwide poll yesterday showed 85% approve this. Minority support was 80%.
YES!
Absolutely we should be required to show ID to vote.
Yes, I had to show ID and proof when I registered to vote, just like I do when I get a drivers license initially. However, when I have an interaction with law-enforcement, I must show my ID to prove who I am. Voting should be no difference.
I’m not sure I agree with the ideal of federalizing the elections, but we need something a lot more strict and controlled than the loosely goosy approach that we have today. I do think the federal government should be allowed to require states to enforce a voter ID check prior to them being able to vote. I understand that throws in a monkey wrench for those that do mail in votes, however, if we only do mail in votes for those who requested instead of automatically sending mail in votes,I think we would be able to find a solution.
When people tell me ‘no that we should not require ID’, my first question to them is what are they hiding?
Parent,
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Where do you live? Your comment, “However, when I have an interaction with law-enforcement, I must show my ID to prove who I am,” is INCORRECT!!! You’re only required to ID to a peace officer, “to prove who you are,” in certain situations, if you’re giving up your ID in every interaction with a peace officer, then you’re doing nothing but giving up your Fourth Amendment Rights.
Black Knight, I live locally, like you I assume.
The term LEO and Peace Officer are generally used interchangeably, so I will stand by my statement. So when I have been pulled over, I show my license – REQURED by law. When I reported a crime, I showed my license when asked and when I was a witness to a car accident, I showed my license when asked – not sure if that is required by law or not but it is the right thing to do. Those are all my interactions with LEO’s.
I do not see as giving up my 4th Amendment Rights, but rather see it as cooperating with a LEO to provide them a level of comfort with whom they are dealing with. Why do I do that, cause I have nothing to hide. Why would I not want to show who I am … why do I want to put a LEO doing their job under more stress?
parent,
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To say you show your ID to a peace officer because, “it is the right thing to do,” is simply subjective.
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It’s almost always Law Enforcement Agency policy for a peace officer to identify everyone that they come in contact with. I will comply with the law, but I don’t and I won’t comply with Law Enforcement Agency policy, because I’m not required to do so!!! The FACT is that peace officers suffer from an addiction problem, an ID addiction problem, and their ID addiction problems have cost us billions of dollars in civil rights violation lawsuits every year.
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It’s not the responsibility of the public to “cooperate” with a peace officer in every interaction or “to provide them with a level of comfort with whom they are dealing with” when they engage with members of the public. THAT’S WHY WE HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!!
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Refusing to ID to a peace officer doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with having something to hide. I just won’t surrender my Constitutional Rights when I’m not required to do so by law. I don’t want my name being run through their systems which then ends up in government databases and at Fusion Centers all because they want my identification for NO CRIME!!!
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You apparently, “want to show who you are,” and identify to peace officers because you don’t care about keeping and maintaining your own Constitutional Rights and those of every other American. You apparently care more about possibly causing a public servant peace officer, “more stress,” which is again simply subjective, than you do about keeping and maintaining your own Constutional Rights and those of every other American.
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Are you also willing to surrender your rights to non-peace officer public servants “to provide them with a level of comfort?” Are you also willing to surrender your rights to members of the general public “to provide them with a level of comfort?”
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When you willingly surrender your Constitutional Rights, you willingly surrender the Constitutional Rights of all Americans. You allow the government to further erode all of our rights when you refuse to demand that your rights be respected. The number one job of all public servants, including peace officers, is to protect, defend, and respect our Constitutional Rights, but when you willingly surrender your rights to public servants, then public servants cease to protect, defend, and respect our rights.
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How did you develop so much blind trust in public servants and government?
Gotcha!
Subjective!
Wow ….
Surrending my rights? Nope, the 4th amendment protects you from unreasonable searches and seizures by the governemnt. The major difference between you and me is that I do not consider it unreasonable to show my ID when interacting (pulled over, accident, etc) a LEO. See, I also recognized that when someone is pulled over by a LEO, they are detained at that time. I know, you probably will disagree, and you have that right.
I protect my rights – not sure why you are jumping off the radical deep end, but that again is your choice. I will also fight to protect the rights of others. I am not LBTQ+ but if that is your choice, I will fight for you to have those choices. I will let you have your freedom of religion even if it is different than mine.
Not sure where you get the idea that I would surrender my rights to you or any other member of the public, but whatever. The simple answer is no. They are not in a position of authority over me. If they choose to engage, there is no legal authority that allows them to see my ID and I will protect it.
Blind Trust? No … earned trust. I also recognize that one or two bad apples in a bunch do not mean the whole barrel is bad. You apparently would throw the whole truckload of apples away because one apple had a bruise. I come from an era where we taught respect for our LEO and Fire Departments etc … not from today’s world of self centered-all about me – approach.
You have decided that it is unreasonable to provide ID when interacting, that is your choice. Do you also consider it unreasonable when someone challenges your knighthood? Apparently you have also decided that is unreasonable to identify yourself when you vote, we disagree.
I have not surrendered my Consitutional rights, we just have different views on what that document stands for.
I still stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
I still stand for the National Anthem.
Those words mean something to me.
parent,
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I’m not the one that came up with the interpretation of the Constitution that says it’s a Fourth Amendment unreasonable search and seizure violation to identify upon demand to every peace officer for any reason that one comes in contact with, that’d be the United States Supreme Court.
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I did post that I would identify and comply with the law, but that I don’t and won’t comply with a law enforcement agency policy to identify. You may have missed that. I also don’t and won’t identify to any peace officer who demands that I identify on a whim who works for a law enforcement agency without a policy to identify either.
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I never said that one doesn’t have to identify when legally detained, whether that be in a vehicle or at any other time outside of a vehicle. However, I wouldn’t identify as a passenger in a car or any other time unless legally required to do so.
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I haven’t jumped off of the radical deep end. You say that you protect your rights, but I disagree, because when you freely give up your rights, you’re not protecting your rights, you’re surrendering your rights, which erodes everyone’s rights.
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You said, “I am not LBTQ+ but if that is your choice, I will fight for you to have those choices.” You also said, “I will let you have your freedom of religion even if it is different than mine.” Did you notice that you stated that you’d fight for an individual “to have those choices” and “let” one “have freedom of religion,” and not anything about individuals having those Constitutional Rights to choose for themselves?
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I never stated that you’d surrender your rights to any public servant or a member of the general public, including myself. I asked if you’d surrender your rights to public servants and members of the general public, “to provide them with a level of comfort,” just as you do with peace officers?
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I’ve got big news for you, there are more than one or two bad apples in our bunch of public servants, whether those public servants be peace officers, civil servants, appointed and elected public officials. It’s way more than one or two of those in the bunch, it’s more like ALL but one or two in the bunch that are bad apples and should be thrown out. The vast majority of our public servants believe they rule over the public, and they don’t seem to understand that they are in their positions to serve the public. The problem is that way too many Americans have allowed our public servants to believe that they’re in charge and rule over us. The vast majority of public servants who’ve taken an oath to the Constitution have actually never read it and don’t understand it. I believe that’s a huge problem!!!
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Is it “earned trust” or “taught respect” that you have for peace officers? It has absolutely nothing to do with your perceived notions of “today’s world of self centered-all about me — approach.” The fact is that you’ve freely chosen to surrender your Constitutional Rights for “earned trust” and “taught respect” of government employees who are strangers to you. That sure does sound like BLIND TRUST!!! Unlike you, not only do I know that “Officer Friendly” doesn’t exist and never existed, but the notion of the “Officer Friendly” propaganda in the schools of decades past, was just that, GOVERNMENT SPONSORED PROPAGANDA, created to “TEACH” American children to have “trust” in peace officers by giving up their Constitutional Rights as adults, all because someone wears a badge, gun, and uniform.
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Again, I do find it unreasonable to identify to a peace officer when I have no legal obligation to do so because that’s how the U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
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We do have a difference of opinion on what the Constitution stands for. You appear to believe that you personally interpret the text of the Constitution, which you’re free to do, even though you surrender rights in the process and believe you have rights that you don’t. I know that our Constitutional Rights have been determined by the interpretation of the Constitution by the Supreme Court, even though I don’t agree with every ruling they’ve made. If every American were to self-interpret the Constitution as you do, then it’d mean everything and nothing at the same time.
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I do identify when I vote, except when my neighbors are working the polls, which is almost every election, then they identify me.
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You may challenge my knighthood title of nobility all that you want, it doesn’t bother me, just as I may challenge your title of “parent,” but the FACT remains, ONCE A BLACK KNIGHT, ALWAYS A BLACK KNIGHT!!!
100% YES!!! Anyone claiming any reason not to can move to any other country that does not require voting ID…
When registering you should be biometrically scanned. Then when you show up at the pools they do a bio-scan to confirm your a valid voter who has not yet voted. False ID cards are easy to obtain.
Good idea. I think we should use fingerprint instead of signature for signature can be forged. Have a machine record all the ballots; and at the end of the day, count the ballots that have the fingerprint of the valid voters. On the same token, arrest those who vote when they aren’t supposed to vote since we have theirs fingerprints as well. And to be fair, we should limit the voting time for each voter to 10 minutes to prevent voters from hogging the machine to prevent other from voting.
WC—Creeker,
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Requiring citizens to give up their biometric data to the government is a horrible idea!!! Why do you have so much trust in the government, whether run by Democrats or Republicans, that you’re so willing to entrust your biometric data, and everyone else’s biometric data, to them to properly secure the information, as well as properly use this information???
YES!
You need ID for everything else! It’s only the democrats that are against IDs to vote because they want to sneak in a lot of illegal votes! But of course, if you challenge their plan, you’re called racist, prejudice, homophobic, etc etc
Yes….Friggen Yes!! Are we stupid??? I have to show ID to get in a concert, buy booze, check out a book from the library (yes old), go to the rifle range, write a check (once again old), and so many more. “I had to show proof of vaccine to get into restaurants….” You would have to be stupid or corrupt to not want proof you are who you are to vote. stupid question.
Put a serial number on the ballots….. don’t give me the crap that it would be impossible as you can put a serial number on money. Ballot secrecy is no excuse
Angry American,
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The problem with serial numbers on ballots is that it eliminates the right to a secret ballot once the government knows your ballot serial number.
ABSOLUTELY
Of course! We do that in Tennessee. It doesn’t make it any more complicated to vote, but it does make it harder to cheat.
My first chance to vote came in 1968, when I was in the army at Ft. Devins, MA. Of course, this was a long way from my home district in Illinois. In 1970, I was able to vote in the mid-terms while stationed in Germany. If I hadn’t been able to vote by mail, I couldn’t have participated in this important feature of our democracy.
Absolutely. I don’t understand what the big issue is. Would you want your bank not to verify your identity at the teller window?
Absolutely. That there is fraud there is no denying. I think a picture ID is necessary to cut down on the amount of fraud. Why is it that one particular political party is so against this simple requirement? One has to wonder…
‘Schumer Threatens To Shut Down Government
So Republicans Can’t Stop Noncitizens From Voting’…
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“…The SAVE Act is nothing more than Jim Crow 2.0.
It would disenfranchise millions of Americans. Every single
Senate Democrat will vote against any bill that contains it.
Speaker Johnson should tell SAVE Act Republicans to
stand down or else this shutdown will be on them.”
–schummer
https://tinyurl.com/4mhp4t8z
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He is counting on a lack of knowledge of post Civil War South,
Jim Crow laws which deprived of blacks their right to vote.
Liberals do some research.
JIM CROW LAWS were put in place by DEMOCRATS.
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Past few decades, ONLY time national democrat party cares about
black voters is during Presidential election years when they have
to have 85% plus of the black voter block to win the presidency.
Easily verified by the years democrats have chosen a dead black
FELON to raise to level of martyrdom. Media wing of the party,
often with satellite trucks providing live 24/7 remote coverage,
reports of thinly justified looting, arson and rioting.
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Their wet dream is a dead black felon, shot by a white cop, then
riots, looting and arson are all but guaranteed to take place in
democrat run cities.
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https://tinyurl.com/yc5aus8d
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How much they really care . . . . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccb-cwSFjP0
Can someone, anyone, offer any real evidence of voter fraud to the extent it changed an election. I like voting by mail, done so for the last 20 years, so what’s the problem? Trump even votes by mail.
John S,
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The three cases that I recall where voting fraud may have changed election results were those of California Republican Congressman Bob Dornan’s 1996 election loss, Minnesota Republican Senator Norm Coleman’s 2008 election loss, and Washington Republican State Senator Dino Rossi’s 2004 gubernatorial election loss. All three races were won and lost by fewer than 1,000 votes and all had claims of hundreds of ineligible voters casting votes, so who really knows.
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Bob Dornan
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https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1997/apr/20/voting-by-noncitizens-confirmed-in-california-race/
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Norm Coleman
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https://nypost.com/2012/08/07/was-al-franken-elected-by-1000-felons/
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Dino Rossi
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https://www.deseret.com/2005/5/24/19894071/gop-alleges-fraud-in-washington-governor-s-race/
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Absolutely. I do not want my wackadoodle Trumper neighbor giving my name when they go to vote, and I can see them doing that.
“Wackadoodle Trumper neighbor”………well, that’s one I hadn’t heard before.
It’s easy to Vote multiple times, I tested it a few Election Cycles ago voting as several neighbors. The County says Signature Recognition stops that, yeah right, it doesn’t. Now I receive multiple Ballots, way to easy (and I haven’t lived in CA for years). Voter ID would have stopped this bad behavior. I’ve left paradise several years ago and now live in State that requires ID, The the Contributor saying it will slow down Voting. I say just the Contrary, they swipe the DL, you sign, you Vote, much faster
gerbertx,
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Some jurisdictions across the country can set signature verification software accuracy by percentage, either increasing or decreasing the percentage of accuracy required by the signature verification software.