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The Water Cooler – Are We Witnessing A New Normal Where Assassanitions/Assassination Atttempts Against Political Figures Just Come With The Territory?

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QUESTION: Are we witnessing a new normal where threats against political figures just come with the territory?

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I refuse to accept this as normal. It doesn’t matter who you vote for or how you live your life. None of that excuses assassinations, attempts, or violence against someone because you disagree with them. Saying it “just comes with the territory” is downplaying (or in some cases flat out encouraging) that kind of behavior. It’s a sad reality but that doesn’t mean you have to accept it when it’s wrong.

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We are witness to an intentional and concerted effort to eliminate
greatest threat to decades of corrupt swamp creature rule.
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From Transcript of Greg Gutfeld show 4/27/26
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“And their response, well, if you can’t beat if you can’t beat him, kill him.
And that’s the other reason Democrats and media created the target.
Trump is a Nazi, a fascist, an existential threat.”
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(assassins
“… you grew them, watered them, nurtured them, fertilized them in your
echo chamber with your media lies and left-wing propaganda until they
were ready to bear fruit. And like I always say, if Democrats aren’t calling
you Hitler, you’re irrelevant. The proof is in the losers manifesto.
Almost word for word what you’d hear from the mainstream left. He//,
it read like a transcript from the latest episode of The View.
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But, you know, this might be the first assassin to be radicalized by smuggness.
Seriously, the shooter thought he was right on everything. And what unites all
liberals is their lack of humility. They just think they’re right all the time.
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 It seems harmless and annoying at first until their opinion becomes belief,
and the belief hardens into an ideology. And if you believed you helped create
that ideology, then you’re more desperate to protect it.
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Even more, without a higher power to curb this hubris, the dogma turns deadly.
After all, if you say Trump’s a Nazi and you think you’re always right, then why
not do the right thing and kill the Nazi?
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And yet, in the run-up to the dinner, it was still about press freedom being under
threat, thanks to the evil, vile orange man. But then, reality shows up, reminding
us who’s really getting shot at. Sorry guys, it’s not you, it’s him.
Maybe ask yourselves why.”
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our TV networks 
I hear voices
Reached this stage of democracy

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It certainly looks like it now days – including assassination hoaxes to gain popular support unfortunately

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Is it new? Haven’t “political” figures been the subject of anger and hate since like the beginning of time? Hard to make everyone happy at the same time…

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“Et tu, Brutus?”

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This has been going on forever. We just hear about more often with cable news and social media.

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The first president to experience an assassination attempt was Andrew Jackson in 1835. A number of assassinations and attempts have taken place since then.

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Fun fact!
The assassin had two pistols that both jammed. 72 yr old Jackson then proceeded to beat the would-be-killer with his cane.

No, it has always come with the territory. Even in ancient
times there were political assassinations. Julius Caesar
and Ramesses come to mind. Edward II and Edward V,
who were Kings of England were also assassinated.
In more modern times, Nicholas II the Czar of Russia,
Mahatma Gandhi, and Prime Minister Shinzō Abe of
Japan were murdered, American presidents that were
assassinated are JFK, Lincoln, Garfield, and McKinley.
US presidents that survived attempts on their lives were
Teddy and Franklin Roosevelt, Truman, Ford, Reagan,
G.W. Bush, and Trump. Other American politicians were
SF Mayor George Moscone, SF Supervisor Harvey Milk,
MLK Jr, and RFK, George Wallace, governor of Alabama
survived an attempt on his life, and as a result was paralyzed
from the waist down and confined to a wheelchair for the rest
of his life. I’m sure there are many others, but those are the
ones I can remember without looking them up.

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The media nd the democrat politiciansare definitely promoting this with their rhetoric and dangerous talk. The proof is that the last few shooters had manifestos that sounded like the Democrat and liberal talking points. IE Hitler IE concentration camps IE gestapo IE dangerous to our democracy. Then the feeble Minds among the Liberals take it to heart and try to act on it. ( and unfortunately the liberal left has a lot of loons in it! Recent polling indicates that 22% of them believe the political violence against the Rival is acceptable)
The mainstream media and the democrats need to really cool their rhetoric!! They need to clearly State what they stand for and what they would do different rather than spend 100% of the time just criticizing Trump. Trump did win the electoral and popular vote. We are two Democrats, former, that voted for him! Stop ignoring us

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No, we’re witnessing whiny left-wing lunatics with TDS losing their minds because they didn’t / don’t get their way!!!

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Unfortunately, yes.
Polls show that 25% of self identified liberals think political violence is justified. When a quarter of your team thinks its ok to attack or kill the other team because of differing opinions, then it is just a matter of time before another nut job starts shooting.

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We are experiencing a world of self centered mentally ill druggies.. It seems everyone takes some sort of drug these days and the effects are showing.

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Lately the bullets only seem to be flying in one direction.

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Well John Hinckley is the only Republican crazy I can remember shooting a President… but I could be mistaken… anybody wanna set me straight?

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Hinkley was obsessed with Jodie Foster, and shot Reagan to impress her.
He claimed it was not political, and that he was not affiliated with any
political party. Hinkley was found not guilty by reason of insanity and was
released after serving 30 years in a mental facility.

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Dr. Jellyfinger,
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I don’t know that John Hinckley Jr. was a Republican, his parents were Republicans, and they and their family had ties to then Vice President George H.W. Bush and his family. Also, his attempted assassination of President Reagan in 1981 and his stalking of and plans to assassinate President Carter in 1980 weren’t motivated by politics, religion, or hatred, but for his obsessed love for actress Jodie Foster. So, in the case of John Hinckley Jr., his motivations were an outlier.

He didn’t know she was playing for the other team?
Geez…totally insane…..still, I bet he felt like a dumb schmuck when he found out!

Try again:

Vance Boelter, Payton Gendron, Cesar Sayoc Jr, Edward Kelley, Austin Carter, Steven Carrillo, Robert Justus Jr, Ian Benjamin Rogers, Jarrod Copeland, Matthew Belanger, Bryan C. Perry, Jonathan S. O’Dell

^^All right-wingers who committed or attempted to commit political violence in recent history.

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Dave, we were discussing Republicans & you should look up the definition of “right wingers” because the White Supremacists & Neo Nazis you cite do NOT fit that description.
Some of the people you listed are anti Republican as well.
Do you have political party affiliation info for any of them?
You’re painting with a real broad brush.

The violence is coming from transexuals, muslims, DNC stormtroopers, including BLM, Antifa,and KKK, as well as other never-Trumpers

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Stupid people doing stupid things nothing more than that. Small brains diluted with hateful redirect never learning coping skills. wasted generation

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All it takes is one blue looniecrat who thinks he, she (or it), knows better than millions of American voters, to cancel all our votes out with a single bullet.

Nothing is normal about that & it never will be.

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Threats have likely been abound throughout history; actions with US leaders seem to be predominantly against one side, predominantly (always?) committed by the other side, with a undeniable uptick within the last 2 years. Perhaps little o’s message in Philadelphia about “we bring a gun” hit its mark.

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What you are calling political violence is the very tip of the iceberg.

The real question is whether or not violent revolt is the only recourse left for the proletariat. History says it is. The ruling class never relinquishes power by choice. We’re not talking about Team Red vs. Team Blue, we’re talking about working people cheering for Luigi Mangioni; about recent attempts on Altman’s life met with “did they get him this time?”; about videos of warehouses and data centers going up in flames going viral online with the overwhelming majority of comments praising the destruction.

More Americans are waking up to class consciousness and no longer falling for pretending either party gives rat’s a$$ about you or me. When you understand society through the lens of the ownership class and those who sustain it, you see just how incredibly foolish it is to buy into the distractions, let alone cheerlead these charlatans and their theatre.

For generations, democractic attempts to correct this were repeatedly undermined, protesting is routinely scoffed at (and sometimes illegal), and the wealth gap continues to grow, now exponentially. So what’s left? How do things really change? We don’t have to condone violence to understand that it is inevitable when the alternative paths to necessary change have been exhausted or proven fruitless.

This might look to some like it’s the violent side of the socialist mindset, and to some degree that’s fair, as it is exactly what Marx said will inevitably happen to every capitalist society as the system is inherently unsustainable. That theory has proven correct throughout history. America was supposed to be the exception to the rule; an experiment to attempt to prove the middle class can thrive in a newer, then-modern form of regulated capitalism with social guardrails. Once those safety nets were demonized as “socialism,” which it low-key was, and politicized as a threat to American values, our society began to move away from regulated capitalism in preference to the good ‘ol “free market”. The middle class took the hit, poverty grew, and the billionaire class got richer and richer. The left and right blame each other for the rise in homelessness, endless inflation, the decline of the American dollar, failing school systems, the housing crisis, and the fact that higher education is out of reach for most college-aged kids today. Eventually, it becomes clear, that it’s not your neighbor trying to steal your loot, and that you should be on the same side of the frontline, against those who are very successfully working against you both and going mostly unchallenged.

This is what late stage capitalism looks like.

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“That theory has proven correct throughout history.” – Huh? You can’t possibly be serious? Every single society built upon Marxist theories crashed and burned, and became the capitalist society that was supposed to become extinct according to Marx. Cuba and North Korea are two distinct exceptions, true worker’s paradise.

Every so often there needs to be an example of how deficient educational
system ha become. Who knows perhaps some day, dave will learn the rich
aren’t evil.
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“Too Many Millionaires”
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Public Education
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 What is Wrong with the Welfare State?
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Tax the rich, A concept hard to understand and grasp for some

I mean, all the violence is coming from one side of the aisle, so unfortunately, it is part of their messaging.

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Not “ALL” the political violence, but you are correct that it is mostly coming from the right wing in recent years, targeting democrats, lawmakers, police, minorities, and others. I don’t know that I’d say it’s part of their messaging, but seeing as the president has recently publicly celebrated the deaths of Americans he disliked, maybe you’re onto something.

To name a few right wing American terrorists of the last decade: Vance Boelter, Payton Gendron, Cesar Sayoc Jr, Edward Kelley, Austin Carter, Steven Carrillo, Robert Justus Jr, Ian Benjamin Rogers, Jarrod Copeland, Matthew Belanger, Bryan C. Perry, Jonathan S. O’Dell

According to the Cato Institute, right-wing extremists were responsible for over 50% of politically motivated deaths in the US since 2020.

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We’ll try to get you some thumbs up Dave!

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Dave,
The difference between the two parties isn’t whether or not violent and crazy people lurk in both parties. The difference is that in the cases that you cite, the right was as quick to condemn the perps as loudly as the left. Today’s left does not condemn the violence. Instead, they justify and celebrate it all while continuing to dehumanize the victims.

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Nope, par for the course in America. The new normal is mass assassination of school children and we don’t bat an eye anymore.

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Libs call it progress, you can’t tell someone what bathroom to use. But you can shoot people you don’t agree with.

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“its a big club and u aint in it”

Only when there’s a Republican in office, the left does not assassinate its own! History shows us that the presidents who have been assassinated were Republicans killed by radical and deranged leftists. It’s just a fact.

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