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Several Trees Removed At The Old Pine Meadow Golf Course Along Vine Hill Way In Martinez

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Several trees have been removed from the old Pine Meadow Golf Course along Vine Hill Way in Martinez.

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The land, which is about 26.9-acres, will soon be developed with 65 homes and a public park.

photo credit: Craig Cannon

35 comments


John P August 19, 2019 - 4:02 PM - 4:02 PM

Oh joy: 65 more families who will want to drive, shop, educate, medicate, and recreate. Yeah, more housing is what this crowd planet needs; not reasonable population reduction. We manage every other species on this planet but our own. We’re outstripping the capacity of the land to support human life, yet we do nothing but procreate and wring our hands about homelessness. It’s all about carrying capacity of the human species, yet the politicians remain willfully ignorant about how many people can actually live here. It’s simply ecology, folks. We had better stop breeding like flies, lest we have to learn to eat what flies eat.

Mona Liza August 19, 2019 - 4:26 PM - 4:26 PM

I agree. That’s the same thing I thought. Oh joy! Another 65 homes!

ON DA August 19, 2019 - 9:08 PM - 9:08 PM

Joy to the fishes in the big blue sea !!!

Vindex August 19, 2019 - 9:33 PM - 9:33 PM

Have you ever driven CA? Have you ever flown over CA? Have you ever flown over the US? We have so much land. That’s not the problem. What’s the problem is that the politicians are trying to concentrate us into smaller areas, instead of letting us spread out. They say it’s an ecology problem but it isn’t not. More than 80% of CA land is uninhabited. Your comment about “managing” humans aka killing people is ignorant and offensive.

Rollo Tomasi August 19, 2019 - 9:50 PM - 9:50 PM

Nothing that a good old fashioned global conflict can’t solve, right?

Gittyup August 20, 2019 - 5:16 AM - 5:16 AM

@Vindex Just because the land is there doesn’t mean we have to fill it to the brim with houses and humans. And, by managing the population, no one is suggesting we start killing people. For example, in the 60s and 70s one scenario, the Zero Population Growth idea, began to suggest that smaller families would be beneficial in the long run for the planet’s limited resources. It was an idea that preceded and was coexistent with the whole Blue Marble, Earth Day, Conservation, and Recycling movements. I don’t believe it ever really caught on. In the meantime, the message was lost bringing us to the overcrowding we see in cities today and all the problems that go along with it. Perhaps it is again necessary to begin seriously considering such an idea.

Dennis August 19, 2019 - 4:24 PM - 4:24 PM

Just what we need…more people. We need open space more than we need more single family dwellings.

kathy August 19, 2019 - 4:27 PM - 4:27 PM

NO It’s all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

ZZ August 20, 2019 - 7:35 AM - 7:35 AM

EXACTLY!!!

Anon August 19, 2019 - 4:58 PM - 4:58 PM

What about all of the trees that were cleared out at Boyd rd & Pleasant hill rd?

Shoulda Coulda August 19, 2019 - 5:57 PM - 5:57 PM

Anon-

I’m pretty sure that is private property that
has been owned by the Molino family for
many years. Remember when they use to
sell Molino’s Homemade Raviolis there.

Anon August 19, 2019 - 8:31 PM - 8:31 PM

Huh? It’s no different than the Pine Meadows situation.

Rollo Tomasi August 19, 2019 - 9:52 PM - 9:52 PM

“Huh? It’s no different than the Pine Meadows situation.”

That depends on why the trees were cleared.

Anon August 20, 2019 - 10:36 AM - 10:36 AM

Wow, Really?
Because they are building Kracker box houses, SMH.

The Observer August 19, 2019 - 5:49 PM - 5:49 PM

In a subdivision of single-family homes, there will be a lot more trees planted than ever existed on the old golf course.

And while we’re on the subject of trees, it would be nice if the eucalyptus trees around the area were cut down, or at least thinned out. Given the increasing wildfire danger in our area, we should be worried about how eucalyptus trees enhance the spread of fires.

Gittyup August 19, 2019 - 5:53 PM - 5:53 PM

Eucalyptus are natural insect repellants.

burnbabyburn August 20, 2019 - 5:20 AM - 5:20 AM

Yes, blame the trees. Kill the trees that “enhance” the spread of fires. Fires are a natural part of nature that helps to propagate a healthy planet. Humans (politicians, lawyers, progressives) want to control everything and that is where the problem lies. The Native Americans had it right.

Cowellian August 20, 2019 - 11:56 AM - 11:56 AM

Eucalyptus weeds and wood shake roofs were major factors in the spread of the Oakland Hills fire which destroyed homes and killed people. Eucalyptus weeds and the fires they fuel are not a natural part of anything in California.

Rollo Tomasi August 20, 2019 - 11:59 AM - 11:59 AM

“Also, you are quite mistaken if you think conservatives don’t want to control everything. Remind me again who is stripping away environmental protections for greed?”

So you support your statement regarding conservatives wanting control with an example of controls being lifted. Hmm. Don’t quit your day job.

Chester E. Kitty August 19, 2019 - 7:16 PM - 7:16 PM

I just drove by there last week and could not believe what they have done to all those trees. And more homes! Yay!! I’m sure all the neighbors are looking forward to that. We just can’t leave any open space, can we?????!!!!

Zoro August 19, 2019 - 7:29 PM - 7:29 PM

I hope they are building an elementary school as well because Hidden Valley is absolutely bursting at the seams with nearly 900 students!

Mtz resident August 19, 2019 - 7:52 PM - 7:52 PM

Martinez no longer has a traffic division and there are already problems with the intersection of vine hill and rolling hill with people constantly running the stop sign. Center and vine hill will soon have that problem with the new houses. Guess it will take a bad accident or a pedestrian being killed to get the attention of the pd. I am sure none of the people in the immediate area are happy about this.

palermo August 20, 2019 - 4:40 PM - 4:40 PM

I drive that way regularly and noticed in the last six months how so many are driving right on through, scary

ON DA August 19, 2019 - 9:05 PM - 9:05 PM

LQQKS like a modern Brazilian Rainforest. Neat.

YIMBY August 19, 2019 - 11:27 PM - 11:27 PM

On the one hand, everyone likes to complain about the high cost of housing, and then when the most obvious solution presents itself, namely to build more housing, people say no?! I think this was a good compromise, although I wish we could have avoided the dueling ballot measures and lawsuits. I for one, welcome this development with open arms. Glad to see them get rid of the dry trees and plant some new ones to go alongside the new homes.

burnbabyburn August 20, 2019 - 5:24 AM - 5:24 AM

I like fast food. Or specifically, “good food served quickly”.

qwerty August 20, 2019 - 11:40 AM - 11:40 AM

Remove all Eucalyptus trees from North America. They have no natural predators. They burn easily. It does not belong in our Boreal Floristic Region. It belongs in the Australian Floristic Region only.

Cut 'Em August 20, 2019 - 12:51 PM - 12:51 PM

If those are eucalyptus trees, cut them all.

bob August 20, 2019 - 4:16 PM - 4:16 PM

As long as there is no section 8, all will be fine. Keep the neighborhood clean.

palermo August 20, 2019 - 4:39 PM - 4:39 PM

After living here for thirty plus years I still don’t understand the thinking. People complain daily about the homeless, workers living in their cars etc. but nobody is EVER happy when they actually build more houses. Do we really need more parks, for God’s sake there is a huge one called Hidden Lakes right there and it is mostly empty except for weekends. I’ve been retired for awhile now and I have noticed that rarely do you find anyone in a park during the week. I guess it’s more the idea of the space sitting empty that appeals to everyone.

Ilovepopcorn August 20, 2019 - 10:45 PM - 10:45 PM

New housing is not helping the homeless or lower middle class to find
affordable places to live.

Rollo Tomasi August 21, 2019 - 12:59 PM - 12:59 PM

“New housing is not helping the homeless or lower middle class to find affordable places to live.”

Neither is insisting on living in California.

ConcordDad August 21, 2019 - 12:25 AM - 12:25 AM

These trees are like weeds, take them down and replace with native trees. This particular development was done with a responsible developer picked by the family that owns the land. They got offers to build upwards of two hundred homes on the old golf course. We need housing in the Bay Area. 65 homes on that size lot is actually spread out these days. The developer is planting something like 5 trees for each one that they take out. They are also using better trees! I’m excited about this development and hope other areas follow this developer.

Rollo Tomasi August 21, 2019 - 1:13 PM - 1:13 PM

@ConcordDad:
If that’s all factual, good information. Thanks!

martinezdad August 21, 2019 - 11:45 AM - 11:45 AM

Everyone is always concerned about someone else’s home being built, like their house should have been the last one ever 🙂


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