Really? A public school can now enforce a flu shot vaccination? What will the anti-vaxers say to this? Health care workers are required by their job to get one, but a public school can require you to get one to attend their classes? I do not think this will go over well.
And to the you, yes, I get one every year, see note above about Health Care workers.
TraumaRxAugust 10, 2020 - 9:52 AM - 9:52 AM
Not all Health Care workers are required to get the flu shot. All depends on where you work.
The Fat CatAugust 10, 2020 - 1:03 PM - 1:03 PM
Who cares what anti-vaxxers have to say? They have no credibility on the subject.
parentAugust 10, 2020 - 1:25 PM - 1:25 PM
@TraumaX
I did not know that! I just assumed we all had to …
@Cat
They are going to argue, their body …
I am for the flu shot, but to be honest, never got one until I was required for work. Seems strange that a public institution can make this a requirement.
SamAugust 10, 2020 - 1:54 PM - 1:54 PM
Lol you think you can’t force people to inject a companies product it’s their body. That’s funny. Anti vax is such a stupid insult. I also refuse to eat McDonald’s because it’s probably not good for me. Does that also place me as a strange conspiratorial type person deserving of ridicule?
Oh, pleaseAugust 10, 2020 - 2:15 PM - 2:15 PM
I work at a hospital. We have to get a flu shot or choose to wear a mask for the entirety of flu season, chaging that mask every two hours while at work.
SamAugust 10, 2020 - 8:55 AM - 8:55 AM
Nothing like state of California mafia tactics to force the sale of vaccines. This should be criminal. What if they forced you to buy Apple products in order to get an education? (Using the term education loosely here) Would you notice then? This is real fascism
The Fat CatAugust 10, 2020 - 1:09 PM - 1:09 PM
iPads don’t keep people from getting sick. And if I don’t have an iPad, that does not put anyone around me at risk of getting sick.iPads also aren’t covered as preventative care under most insurance plans.
I don’t think that you know what fascism is.
SamAugust 10, 2020 - 1:56 PM - 1:56 PM
So we are back to this…If you have the protection shield of your vaccination, you don’t need to worry about what I do
The Fat CatAugust 10, 2020 - 4:02 PM - 4:02 PM
Not everyone can get the flu vaccine due to legitimate autoimmune disorders, among other *legitimate* reasons. One result of a high vaccination rate is a level of herd immunity that protects people who are at risk due to serious, preexisting illnesses. So yes, if you can find it in yourself to think about others and not just yourself, you will find that getting a flu vaccine helps you AND contributes to a widespread level of protection for those most at risk.
Hello KittyAugust 10, 2020 - 6:09 PM - 6:09 PM
@Cat: and I assume you will be the arbiter of what “legitimate” is?
RANDOM TASKAugust 10, 2020 - 9:16 AM - 9:16 AM
of course they are
next will be you cant get a license without having the vaccine…for the covid
you cant get your tax return without the vaccine
YoyohopAugust 10, 2020 - 9:17 AM - 9:17 AM
This was likely a requirement of the UC system’s Big Pharma backers.
Normalizing and mandating a flu vaccine will make it easier to sell any vaccine in the future. And as of this year the vaccine market has exploded.
It’s a smart scheme.
If you’ll put yourself decades in debt for a degree in cross-cultural basket weaving, why wouldn’t you also put your health at risk through annual injections of a chemical cocktail.
JeffersAugust 10, 2020 - 10:17 AM - 10:17 AM
well said
DLoAugust 10, 2020 - 10:47 AM - 10:47 AM
Requirement of big pharma backers – LOL! Flu shots are free under any Affordable Care Act compliant medical plan.
The requirement is to avoid a surge of flu at health care facilities while we’re still dealing with COVID. Flu vaccinations help protect people in the community at large including those that are vulnerable to serious illness from the flu (e.g. pneumonia, death, etc.)
YoyohopAugust 10, 2020 - 11:07 AM - 11:07 AM
@DlLo. What exactly are you saying?..College students will succumb to the flu in droves and overwhelm the hospitals if not vaccinated? 🙄
Or are you implying that they should be vaccinated to keep the rest of the population safe? But if flu vaccines are effective why would that be an issue?
Why would my lack of a vaccination endanger anyone else if they were vaccinated and the vaccine worked?
DawgAugust 10, 2020 - 11:15 AM - 11:15 AM
@DLo, Nothing is free, Insurance will pay, and under the Affordable Care Act, or Medi-Cal, the government will pay.
ToniAugust 10, 2020 - 11:20 AM - 11:20 AM
DLo: Vaccines aren’t free. Someone is paying for it. And it isn’t the government, who doesn’t generate any money on its own. They are tax collectors who take our tax money and spend it for things like “free” vaccines.
The Fat CatAugust 10, 2020 - 1:14 PM - 1:14 PM
@ Yoyohop
Some people are not able to get vaccines due to preexisting conditions including auto-immune disorders. So the reason that you not being vaccinated can endanger people is that there are some out there whose bodies cannot receive a vaccine due to those serious preexisting diagnoses. However, if a high enough percentage of the population is vaccinated, then herd immunity is achieved, meaning that the unvaccinated are protected because a virus like the flu effectively cannot spread throughout a population.
Yoyo HopAugust 10, 2020 - 4:27 PM - 4:27 PM
@FatCat
That’s your justification for mandatory vaccines?
A small percentage of people with auto-immune diseases should cause ALL to lose their rights and risk their health?
By admitting that vaccines are dangerous to a specific demographic, you’re actually making my point.
Everyone with an impaired immune system due to an auto-immune disease is not aware of their heightened risk. And if everyone is required to get vaccinated, that demographic will be putting themselves in increased danger.
And yes, healthy people will also be hurt by the vaccine. Why do you think Big Pharma has legal immunity from damages caused by their products?
Ever asked a veteran if they’ve ever been sickened by a vaccine?
The GI “flu shot” I received made me sicker than I’ve been in my entire life.
DLoAugust 10, 2020 - 4:42 PM - 4:42 PM
The cost of my free vaccination as part of preventative care is factored into the my share and employer share my employer provided healthcare premium.
Affordable Care Act compliant plans require that the preventative care be included in the plan. This includes employer sponsored plans, Covered California, Medicare and MediCal. Not all plans are taxpayer funded…
Lazy OneAugust 10, 2020 - 9:30 AM - 9:30 AM
If classes are online is this necessary?
idiots everywhereAugust 10, 2020 - 9:52 AM - 9:52 AM
Do not question authority, you must comply without asking such probing questions.
ilovepopcornAugust 10, 2020 - 10:06 AM - 10:06 AM
Very good of them to be proactive. They were the best employer! Yes it is very necessary because we have to work there. Big Pharma? Really? Do you know that your flu shot this year is the most important one we ever have to get. Obviously it is the pandemic. Thank you UC System. A very smart move. Which reminds me: GET YOUR FLU SHOT! The healthier we all are the better this pandemic will go away or slow down at least. Stay smart and stay safe.
CrackyAugust 10, 2020 - 10:29 AM - 10:29 AM
Why is “MY BODY, MY RIGHTS” only acceptably chanted for certain, specific issues??? This is MY body, it is MY right to say NO to certain damaging, harmful chemicals being injected into it.
The ObserverAugust 10, 2020 - 9:42 AM - 9:42 AM
They should require proof of vaccination to get into Target and Walmart.
YoyohopAugust 10, 2020 - 12:06 PM - 12:06 PM
Surprised the Washington Post isn’t pushing this angle. Amazon would make another billion.
BOOYAH!August 10, 2020 - 9:43 AM - 9:43 AM
Next, computer chip in your forehead for all UC students, faculty and staff.
RicardusAugust 10, 2020 - 1:53 PM - 1:53 PM
You do realize that is what iPhones are?
MartinezmikeAugust 10, 2020 - 9:50 AM - 9:50 AM
And what becomes of that great feminist slogan sang by liberals everywhere? “My body, my choice!”
GooglarAugust 10, 2020 - 10:05 AM - 10:05 AM
Can’t remember last time I took a flu shot. When I get the flu, I just get sick for a few days and let my immune system go to work.
RANDOM TASKAugust 10, 2020 - 10:22 AM - 10:22 AM
GET YOUR FLU SHOT! The healthier we all are the better this pandemic will go away or slow down at least. Stay smart and stay safe.
wow popcorn I sure hope you didn’t just put a lot of people in harms way by enforcing the rhetoric of liberal national socialism
forcing a flu shot wow
what next abortions
AnonAugust 10, 2020 - 12:08 PM - 12:08 PM
popcorn lives in a Rossmoor bubble. Totally out of touch with reality.
NatalieAugust 10, 2020 - 10:44 AM - 10:44 AM
@Sam, flu shots can be gotten for free at medical facilities, as well as locations like CVS, Walgreens, and Target. The campus health care centers give free flu shots.
@Lazy One, classes are online, but many students are still living near their respective campuses. Given that the situation is fluid, there could be a chance of some campus facilities partially opening sometime in the Fall20-Spring21 school year, or a possibility of the UC establishing outdoor instruction on campus.
@ZZ, the UC health-care facilities will be busy dealing with Covid. They don’t want to have to deal with a lot of flu cases too. The flu has nothing to do with Covid. The UC just would prefer to focus their resources on Covid response, and not get bogged with flu cases.
SamAugust 10, 2020 - 11:12 AM - 11:12 AM
At Nat
“There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch”
SamAugust 10, 2020 - 11:15 AM - 11:15 AM
At Nat
So many wrong thinkers here today. You gotta work triple time trying to educate us 🤣 carry on..
RozAugust 10, 2020 - 11:34 AM - 11:34 AM
Have never had a Flu shot,….and would pass on getting one.. But then again I had the ‘Mother of all Flu’s’ for me in 1980 (Bangkok Flu), and have not caught the Flu since then,…knock on wood.
Exit 12AAugust 10, 2020 - 11:44 AM - 11:44 AM
…
“A required vaccine/flu shot is reasonable.
Don’t like it? Then either get a medical exemption or attend college elsewhere.
You’re welcome.
Signed,
Janet Napolitano”
tomato girlAugust 10, 2020 - 11:57 AM - 11:57 AM
A few leftist Kool aid drinkers agree! LOL!!! Go back to your houses with your hand sanitizer, masks, face shields and hide till the coast is clear. Some of us just want our country, jobs, lives, and minds back. Quit your stupid lectures on how some of us are sooo stupid because we don’t fall in line and drink your kool aid to believe.
The Fat CatAugust 10, 2020 - 4:11 PM - 4:11 PM
“Some of us just want our country…back”
This country is not owned by any one particular group of people, so please spare us your entitled jingoism; it’s quite tired.
Yoyo HopAugust 10, 2020 - 5:09 PM - 5:09 PM
This country may not be owned by one particular group of people, but it was formed with one particular concepts in mind.
The concept of Liberty is the essence of our country and it is not Jingoism to speak out when something essential to our way of life is being destroyed.
If anything reeks of Jingoism (or Jingoism by proxy), it is the widespread attempts to silence others at a time when a dubious perpetual emergency has suspended our Constitutional rights.
The destruction of our liberties is the destruction of our country.
I wonder, who would benefit from such a thing?
The Fat CatAugust 10, 2020 - 8:33 PM - 8:33 PM
@yo
Don’t trip chocolate chip 😉 I’m not trying to silence your dumb antivax opinions, just show how absurd they are
Yoyo HopAugust 10, 2020 - 9:24 PM - 9:24 PM
@ Fat Cat,
Hmm,
You’re pointing out the absurdity of the anti-vaccine stance by noting that vaccines are admittedly harmful to a certain demographic.
Love the irony!
AnonAugust 10, 2020 - 12:02 PM - 12:02 PM
C ertificate
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V accination
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They want to mandate vaccines, The 1986 non-liability of vaccine manufacturers needs to be removed.
That’s right……You cannot sue if you’re one of the statistics who suffers injury from a vaccine.
LL Cool JAugust 10, 2020 - 12:28 PM - 12:28 PM
I hope those people are prepared for virus interference. When challenged with Covid or the Covid vaccine, those who get flu shots are more likely to become seriously ill. Well documented. Virus interference. Look it up. Mainstream news won’t tell you about it.
anonAugust 10, 2020 - 1:43 PM - 1:43 PM
Well that’s terrifying. Add this to things like ADE.
Just meAugust 10, 2020 - 12:43 PM - 12:43 PM
The flu shot is not 100% effective against the strain that it is made for. And the strain that it is made for might not even be the strain that is prevalent that year. The flu shot is one of the shots that still has mercury in it.
I don’t understand why people literally add insult to injury by calling people antivaxxers. The majority of people that are called antivax, DID get their children vaccinated. AND their child was vaccine injured.
(Insulting a parent of an injured child!!!)
You can’t sue the vaccine makers, they have zero liability. The government gave this to the vaccine industry in 1986.
There is a vaccine court that you can take your case to, but you will be going against the Federal government and their lawyers. But if you do win the case nobody is held responsible, and the money you get is from tax dollars, not the vaccine makers. The vaccine court has paid out over
$4 Billion dollars to families of vaccine injured kids.
I have a question for everyone.
If vaccines are effective, why do you care if someone else is not vaccinated.
For those that are PRO-LIFE, do you know that there is aborted fetal tissue in vaccines? WI-38 and MRC-5 are both human fetal cell lines.Check the link or you can check the CDC website. the ingredient lists are there too but you have to search hard to find them. Or check the vaccine manufacturer websites and search for package inserts. Ask your doctor for the package inserts from a vaccine before you get it, you will need to research what a lot of the ingredients are like the aborted babies listed above, they don’t say aborted human babies, they say WI-38 or MRC-5.
Do your research before calling people names or trying to discredit them. Most so called antivaxxers weren’t always against vaccines, they thought vaccines were safe and they have to be tested right? Wrong! No vaccine on the current 72 dose (before you start school) schedule has been tested against an INERT placebo. Check out Google Scholar and search before 1990. Most studies after 1990 have had their data manipulated because the studies are not done by an independent company, they are paid for by the manufacturers. The cigarette companies did the same thing, paid for the studies and new they were addictive and caused cancer. So they manipulated the data to show that smoking menthol cigarettes were good for sore throats and cigarettes in general aided digestion, they helped with weight loss, etc. Four out of five doctors smoke Camels than any other brand.
Keep believing everything the government tells you because politicians don’t lie. They have always done what is best for We the People.
Just youAugust 10, 2020 - 1:40 PM - 1:40 PM
You’re an antivaxxer that doesn’t want to be called an antivaxxer.
SimonpureAugust 10, 2020 - 12:54 PM - 12:54 PM
Guess I would just have to quit school
DeeAugust 10, 2020 - 1:14 PM - 1:14 PM
What if you are allergic to eggs? There are people who really can’t take certain vaccines. Are you going to kicked them out? Bottom line big pharmo will be making a lot of money
anonAugust 10, 2020 - 1:55 PM - 1:55 PM
My body my rights only applies to women who want to end the life of their perfectly healthy babies, apparently.
SamAugust 10, 2020 - 2:24 PM - 2:24 PM
The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation
Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights
Article 6 – Consent
1. Any PREVENTATIVE, diagnostic and therapeutic medical intervention is only to be carried out with the prior, free and informed consent of the person concerned, based on adequate information. The consent should, where appropriate, be express and may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without disadvantage or prejudice.
2. Scientific research should only be carried out with the prior, free, express and informed consent of the person concerned. The information should be adequate, provided in a comprehensible form and should include modalities for withdrawal of consent. Consent may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without any disadvantage or prejudice. Exceptions to this principle should be made only in accordance with ethical and legal standards adopted by States, consistent with the principles and provisions set out in this Declaration, in particular in Article 27, and international human rights law.
3. In appropriate cases of research carried out on a group of persons or a community, additional agreement of the legal representatives of the group or community concerned may be sought. In no case should a collective community agreement or the consent of a community leader or other authority substitute for an individual’s informed consent.
***This means the world agrees, even you trying to make me wear a mask (preventive) is a crime against humanity. You can keep dreaming control freaks.
The dumb thing about this is that Flu vaccines don’t always work. We don’t know if this flu vaccine is accurate.
AshAugust 10, 2020 - 3:57 PM - 3:57 PM
will they wear yellow stars to identify themselves as flu shoot recipients?
NatalieAugust 10, 2020 - 7:27 PM - 7:27 PM
@Ash, your comment is disgusting, and mocks the Holocaust.
@Shea Gaier, even if this year’s vaccine isn’t for the precisely correct flu strain, it still can help reduce flu symptoms. A vaccine doesn’t have to be a perfect match to offer some benefit.
AnonAugust 11, 2020 - 8:08 AM - 8:08 AM
@Natalie,
Your comment, as do all of your comments lacks research and common sense.
SAugust 11, 2020 - 9:11 AM - 9:11 AM
Natalie tries, but is usually just off the mark. Nat is not very well read…. Recommend: The Sneetches, Dr. Seuss
57 comments
Really? A public school can now enforce a flu shot vaccination? What will the anti-vaxers say to this? Health care workers are required by their job to get one, but a public school can require you to get one to attend their classes? I do not think this will go over well.
And to the you, yes, I get one every year, see note above about Health Care workers.
Not all Health Care workers are required to get the flu shot. All depends on where you work.
Who cares what anti-vaxxers have to say? They have no credibility on the subject.
@TraumaX
I did not know that! I just assumed we all had to …
@Cat
They are going to argue, their body …
I am for the flu shot, but to be honest, never got one until I was required for work. Seems strange that a public institution can make this a requirement.
Lol you think you can’t force people to inject a companies product it’s their body. That’s funny. Anti vax is such a stupid insult. I also refuse to eat McDonald’s because it’s probably not good for me. Does that also place me as a strange conspiratorial type person deserving of ridicule?
I work at a hospital. We have to get a flu shot or choose to wear a mask for the entirety of flu season, chaging that mask every two hours while at work.
Nothing like state of California mafia tactics to force the sale of vaccines. This should be criminal. What if they forced you to buy Apple products in order to get an education? (Using the term education loosely here) Would you notice then? This is real fascism
iPads don’t keep people from getting sick. And if I don’t have an iPad, that does not put anyone around me at risk of getting sick.iPads also aren’t covered as preventative care under most insurance plans.
I don’t think that you know what fascism is.
So we are back to this…If you have the protection shield of your vaccination, you don’t need to worry about what I do
Not everyone can get the flu vaccine due to legitimate autoimmune disorders, among other *legitimate* reasons. One result of a high vaccination rate is a level of herd immunity that protects people who are at risk due to serious, preexisting illnesses. So yes, if you can find it in yourself to think about others and not just yourself, you will find that getting a flu vaccine helps you AND contributes to a widespread level of protection for those most at risk.
@Cat: and I assume you will be the arbiter of what “legitimate” is?
of course they are
next will be you cant get a license without having the vaccine…for the covid
you cant get your tax return without the vaccine
This was likely a requirement of the UC system’s Big Pharma backers.
Normalizing and mandating a flu vaccine will make it easier to sell any vaccine in the future. And as of this year the vaccine market has exploded.
It’s a smart scheme.
If you’ll put yourself decades in debt for a degree in cross-cultural basket weaving, why wouldn’t you also put your health at risk through annual injections of a chemical cocktail.
well said
Requirement of big pharma backers – LOL! Flu shots are free under any Affordable Care Act compliant medical plan.
The requirement is to avoid a surge of flu at health care facilities while we’re still dealing with COVID. Flu vaccinations help protect people in the community at large including those that are vulnerable to serious illness from the flu (e.g. pneumonia, death, etc.)
@DlLo. What exactly are you saying?..College students will succumb to the flu in droves and overwhelm the hospitals if not vaccinated? 🙄
Or are you implying that they should be vaccinated to keep the rest of the population safe? But if flu vaccines are effective why would that be an issue?
Why would my lack of a vaccination endanger anyone else if they were vaccinated and the vaccine worked?
@DLo, Nothing is free, Insurance will pay, and under the Affordable Care Act, or Medi-Cal, the government will pay.
DLo: Vaccines aren’t free. Someone is paying for it. And it isn’t the government, who doesn’t generate any money on its own. They are tax collectors who take our tax money and spend it for things like “free” vaccines.
@ Yoyohop
Some people are not able to get vaccines due to preexisting conditions including auto-immune disorders. So the reason that you not being vaccinated can endanger people is that there are some out there whose bodies cannot receive a vaccine due to those serious preexisting diagnoses. However, if a high enough percentage of the population is vaccinated, then herd immunity is achieved, meaning that the unvaccinated are protected because a virus like the flu effectively cannot spread throughout a population.
@FatCat
That’s your justification for mandatory vaccines?
A small percentage of people with auto-immune diseases should cause ALL to lose their rights and risk their health?
By admitting that vaccines are dangerous to a specific demographic, you’re actually making my point.
Everyone with an impaired immune system due to an auto-immune disease is not aware of their heightened risk. And if everyone is required to get vaccinated, that demographic will be putting themselves in increased danger.
And yes, healthy people will also be hurt by the vaccine. Why do you think Big Pharma has legal immunity from damages caused by their products?
Ever asked a veteran if they’ve ever been sickened by a vaccine?
The GI “flu shot” I received made me sicker than I’ve been in my entire life.
The cost of my free vaccination as part of preventative care is factored into the my share and employer share my employer provided healthcare premium.
Affordable Care Act compliant plans require that the preventative care be included in the plan. This includes employer sponsored plans, Covered California, Medicare and MediCal. Not all plans are taxpayer funded…
If classes are online is this necessary?
Do not question authority, you must comply without asking such probing questions.
Very good of them to be proactive. They were the best employer! Yes it is very necessary because we have to work there. Big Pharma? Really? Do you know that your flu shot this year is the most important one we ever have to get. Obviously it is the pandemic. Thank you UC System. A very smart move. Which reminds me: GET YOUR FLU SHOT! The healthier we all are the better this pandemic will go away or slow down at least. Stay smart and stay safe.
Why is “MY BODY, MY RIGHTS” only acceptably chanted for certain, specific issues??? This is MY body, it is MY right to say NO to certain damaging, harmful chemicals being injected into it.
They should require proof of vaccination to get into Target and Walmart.
Surprised the Washington Post isn’t pushing this angle. Amazon would make another billion.
Next, computer chip in your forehead for all UC students, faculty and staff.
You do realize that is what iPhones are?
And what becomes of that great feminist slogan sang by liberals everywhere? “My body, my choice!”
Can’t remember last time I took a flu shot. When I get the flu, I just get sick for a few days and let my immune system go to work.
GET YOUR FLU SHOT! The healthier we all are the better this pandemic will go away or slow down at least. Stay smart and stay safe.
wow popcorn I sure hope you didn’t just put a lot of people in harms way by enforcing the rhetoric of liberal national socialism
forcing a flu shot wow
what next abortions
popcorn lives in a Rossmoor bubble. Totally out of touch with reality.
@Sam, flu shots can be gotten for free at medical facilities, as well as locations like CVS, Walgreens, and Target. The campus health care centers give free flu shots.
@Lazy One, classes are online, but many students are still living near their respective campuses. Given that the situation is fluid, there could be a chance of some campus facilities partially opening sometime in the Fall20-Spring21 school year, or a possibility of the UC establishing outdoor instruction on campus.
@ZZ, the UC health-care facilities will be busy dealing with Covid. They don’t want to have to deal with a lot of flu cases too. The flu has nothing to do with Covid. The UC just would prefer to focus their resources on Covid response, and not get bogged with flu cases.
At Nat
“There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch”
At Nat
So many wrong thinkers here today. You gotta work triple time trying to educate us 🤣 carry on..
Have never had a Flu shot,….and would pass on getting one.. But then again I had the ‘Mother of all Flu’s’ for me in 1980 (Bangkok Flu), and have not caught the Flu since then,…knock on wood.
…
“A required vaccine/flu shot is reasonable.
Don’t like it? Then either get a medical exemption or attend college elsewhere.
You’re welcome.
Signed,
Janet Napolitano”
A few leftist Kool aid drinkers agree! LOL!!! Go back to your houses with your hand sanitizer, masks, face shields and hide till the coast is clear. Some of us just want our country, jobs, lives, and minds back. Quit your stupid lectures on how some of us are sooo stupid because we don’t fall in line and drink your kool aid to believe.
“Some of us just want our country…back”
This country is not owned by any one particular group of people, so please spare us your entitled jingoism; it’s quite tired.
This country may not be owned by one particular group of people, but it was formed with one particular concepts in mind.
The concept of Liberty is the essence of our country and it is not Jingoism to speak out when something essential to our way of life is being destroyed.
If anything reeks of Jingoism (or Jingoism by proxy), it is the widespread attempts to silence others at a time when a dubious perpetual emergency has suspended our Constitutional rights.
The destruction of our liberties is the destruction of our country.
I wonder, who would benefit from such a thing?
@yo
Don’t trip chocolate chip 😉 I’m not trying to silence your dumb antivax opinions, just show how absurd they are
@ Fat Cat,
Hmm,
You’re pointing out the absurdity of the anti-vaccine stance by noting that vaccines are admittedly harmful to a certain demographic.
Love the irony!
C ertificate
O f
V accination
I
D
They want to mandate vaccines, The 1986 non-liability of vaccine manufacturers needs to be removed.
That’s right……You cannot sue if you’re one of the statistics who suffers injury from a vaccine.
I hope those people are prepared for virus interference. When challenged with Covid or the Covid vaccine, those who get flu shots are more likely to become seriously ill. Well documented. Virus interference. Look it up. Mainstream news won’t tell you about it.
Well that’s terrifying. Add this to things like ADE.
The flu shot is not 100% effective against the strain that it is made for. And the strain that it is made for might not even be the strain that is prevalent that year. The flu shot is one of the shots that still has mercury in it.
I don’t understand why people literally add insult to injury by calling people antivaxxers. The majority of people that are called antivax, DID get their children vaccinated. AND their child was vaccine injured.
(Insulting a parent of an injured child!!!)
You can’t sue the vaccine makers, they have zero liability. The government gave this to the vaccine industry in 1986.
There is a vaccine court that you can take your case to, but you will be going against the Federal government and their lawyers. But if you do win the case nobody is held responsible, and the money you get is from tax dollars, not the vaccine makers. The vaccine court has paid out over
$4 Billion dollars to families of vaccine injured kids.
I have a question for everyone.
If vaccines are effective, why do you care if someone else is not vaccinated.
For those that are PRO-LIFE, do you know that there is aborted fetal tissue in vaccines? WI-38 and MRC-5 are both human fetal cell lines.Check the link or you can check the CDC website. the ingredient lists are there too but you have to search hard to find them. Or check the vaccine manufacturer websites and search for package inserts. Ask your doctor for the package inserts from a vaccine before you get it, you will need to research what a lot of the ingredients are like the aborted babies listed above, they don’t say aborted human babies, they say WI-38 or MRC-5.
https://www.historyofvaccines.org/index.php/content/articles/human-cell-strains-vaccine-development
Do your research before calling people names or trying to discredit them. Most so called antivaxxers weren’t always against vaccines, they thought vaccines were safe and they have to be tested right? Wrong! No vaccine on the current 72 dose (before you start school) schedule has been tested against an INERT placebo. Check out Google Scholar and search before 1990. Most studies after 1990 have had their data manipulated because the studies are not done by an independent company, they are paid for by the manufacturers. The cigarette companies did the same thing, paid for the studies and new they were addictive and caused cancer. So they manipulated the data to show that smoking menthol cigarettes were good for sore throats and cigarettes in general aided digestion, they helped with weight loss, etc. Four out of five doctors smoke Camels than any other brand.
Keep believing everything the government tells you because politicians don’t lie. They have always done what is best for We the People.
You’re an antivaxxer that doesn’t want to be called an antivaxxer.
Guess I would just have to quit school
What if you are allergic to eggs? There are people who really can’t take certain vaccines. Are you going to kicked them out? Bottom line big pharmo will be making a lot of money
My body my rights only applies to women who want to end the life of their perfectly healthy babies, apparently.
The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation
Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights
Article 6 – Consent
1. Any PREVENTATIVE, diagnostic and therapeutic medical intervention is only to be carried out with the prior, free and informed consent of the person concerned, based on adequate information. The consent should, where appropriate, be express and may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without disadvantage or prejudice.
2. Scientific research should only be carried out with the prior, free, express and informed consent of the person concerned. The information should be adequate, provided in a comprehensible form and should include modalities for withdrawal of consent. Consent may be withdrawn by the person concerned at any time and for any reason without any disadvantage or prejudice. Exceptions to this principle should be made only in accordance with ethical and legal standards adopted by States, consistent with the principles and provisions set out in this Declaration, in particular in Article 27, and international human rights law.
3. In appropriate cases of research carried out on a group of persons or a community, additional agreement of the legal representatives of the group or community concerned may be sought. In no case should a collective community agreement or the consent of a community leader or other authority substitute for an individual’s informed consent.
***This means the world agrees, even you trying to make me wear a mask (preventive) is a crime against humanity. You can keep dreaming control freaks.
The dumb thing about this is that Flu vaccines don’t always work. We don’t know if this flu vaccine is accurate.
will they wear yellow stars to identify themselves as flu shoot recipients?
@Ash, your comment is disgusting, and mocks the Holocaust.
@Shea Gaier, even if this year’s vaccine isn’t for the precisely correct flu strain, it still can help reduce flu symptoms. A vaccine doesn’t have to be a perfect match to offer some benefit.
@Natalie,
Your comment, as do all of your comments lacks research and common sense.
Natalie tries, but is usually just off the mark. Nat is not very well read…. Recommend: The Sneetches, Dr. Seuss
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