Students in the Los Angeles Unified School District held a “zoom blackout” earlier this week to protest the lack of in-person instruction.
QUESTION: If students in Contra Costa County held a “Zoom blackout,” do you think it would make a difference?
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Yes!
fire every teacher who doesn’t want to return to work.
YES!!!! the teachers union is holding everyone hostage!!!
The teachers should all be fired – i’ll bet there are lots of people looking for jobs who would gladly go back to the classroom to teach. Me included.
California is 49th in getting kids back to school Pathetic for a state with this economy and supposedly a tech leader in the world.
Fired?? Clearly you have no idea how hard teachers are working right now. How about we prioritize getting teachers vaccinated before we expect them to risk their lives by being in a classroom?
@Christine~’risking their lives by being in a classroom’ is the catch phrase of the day to mean we are above grocery clerks, day care workers, etc…we are now essential workers needing to be vaccinated NOW or we won’t go back to work.
I say we treat the too powerful teachers’ union like Ronald Reagan did to the air traffic controllers union—come back to work or you will be replaced!
Really? What is your credential in? Have you ever taught? Ever worked with kids? Are you willing to be placed in any grade they decide to place you in? You will HAVE TO JOIN the union you so hate. So are you up to that?
Jim C. You don’t have to join the union. Or, at least, you don’t have to pay them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janus_v._AFSCME
KNOW your rights. Don’t give the evil unions your money. You have no jobs without kids IN the classrooms, as we are all taking ours to homeschool or private school because the unions.
If the teacher wants the vaccine, get in the classroom and wait your turn.
Teachers throughout California and the United States are teaching, and have been teaching for MONTHS now without a vaccine. And guess what, we do not have the outbreaks you fear. So that tells me that it can be done safely.
So … JimC and Cristine, yeah fire them if they are not going to do their job. And Yes JimC, I have a credential to teach in California. And no, I am not part of a Union.
I’ll bet most of the MDUSD teachers have recently shopped at a crowded Costco, Safeway, Target, Ross, Old Navy, Hobby Lobby, Michael’s, Marshall’s, Walmart, Best Buy, and so on these past 12 months.
It will only be hurting themselves. I personally support the Oakley school board members who complained about selfish parents. They “only want their baby sitters back”. Schools have enough trouble now, better to support them than attack them at least I think so.
“Better to support them than attack them at least I think so.”
Curious if you would you classify the Boards vulgar comments as ‘supporting’ parents?
“I personally support the Oakley school board members who complained about selfish parents.”
So you support a Board member saying they will ‘F someone up’ and another one making drug references?
Sounds like the Board is the one that views their schools as ‘babysitting’ and not the parents.
We need Boards advocating for our children to learn not ones that have constipation of the brain.
Oh, look… jojo the racist is back.
Still haven’t heard your justification for “what you whites don’t understand…..”
Don’t remember that ?
Doesn’t surprise me….
depends does that mean the schools get no money like when children don’t show up for classes? if so then yes!
bring back school!! no more short changing our youth because the teachers are a bunch of chicken littles
Yes, all students should boycott Zoom, including college students. That’s not the education they nor their parents paid for.
I paid my own way through a community college and a state college with student loans that I paid back. I didn’t go on the local news station crying about my $200,000 in student loans for a sociology degree and demanding the loan be forgiven.
My family would participate. It might make a difference if a very large amount of families participated. But I don’t think anything going to make a difference to the MDEA unless it is heavy vocal political pressure from elected politicians and the media. And lawsuits unfortunately. The unions are making this a teacher vs. parents things and it does not have to be. The politicians continuing to stay silent are enabling this unnecessary rift .
If it makes a difference by getting kids in class, or by the terrorist union losing money, or the Bored of Education losing money, my family is in. The teachers should only lose money if they are complacent in the strangle hold the union has on our kids. And if they lose money, that means dear friends of mine will lose money … but .. if you are hurting my child by not providing the education that you are responsible, all friendships are off.
We could also do what SF did, they sent the kids to the school and had them sit outside the schools for at least a day, not sure if it was more.
It wouldn’t change a thing. MDUSD has always been a joke and will continue down that path.
It was better 40 years ago. Believe it or not, Ygnacio Valley High School was considered a good school at that time. The change in Claycord’s demographics will destroy MDUSD, just as it destroyed YVHS.
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No.
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It’s just another form of whining and cancel culture.
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Students will be adults one day….voting adults…voting adults who will remember the self-centered, slacksidacycle attitude of teachers & their extortionist union
Why stop at one day?
Blackout until demands are met. Enough is enough
I am against any kind of boycott but I think that the students should let there teachers know there feelings that they want to return to face to face classrooms. the teaches should just shut-up and listen
I’ve heard anecdotally that most teachers would like to go back to in person teaching as soon as it is safe, which happens to be right about now, but that the union is driving this and that they are telling individual teachers to toe the party line.
It’s purely a bargaining chip for the union. Most unions aren’t looking out for the good of their members, they are looking out for the bottom line for the union organization at the local and national level. i.e. money to keep greasing the skids of political power.
Maybe the teachers need new union leadership if the Union isn’t doing what the members want. That is the problem with California voters in general. They complain about what is happening all the while voting for the same people year after year. Vote for someone different, maybe you will get a better result.
Regarding not voting for the usual gang of idiots:
The Newsom recall effort has a state map that illustrates where a majority of the signatures supporting the Newsom recall are coming from. The weakest county for recall signatures? Marin County, with a whopping 55 signatures. You would think being located right next to San Quentin prison, they would take exception to Newsom releasing prisoners, many with violent histories. My point is given a choice, most people vote without doing their own research.
No. Most of the kids don’t participate anyway. The teachers WANT to be back in school. Simple, step up the vaccines for teachers, guarantee the students will abide by the PPE regulations, and all will be good.
I refuse to believe that the teachers want to be back in school until I see an uprising by teachers against their own union.
For now, the union is providing cover for the teachers to claim how much they want to be back in school, while behind the scenes supporting their union in failing to negotiate.
Teachers are on the gravy train right now, they don’t want to get off, despite their hollow protestations and political theater.
Show me a picket line by teachers in front of their own union offices…
What a dumb statement.
Why don’t the teachers “RESIST” the union? Isn’t that what many of their stupid little bumper stickers say?
I have lost all respect for mdusd teachers. Riding the gravy train as long and possible without a care about the collateral damage. Pathetic.
It’s just like ditching school, the only ones it hurts is the students.
I’ve yet to see one comment from a MDUSD teacher that states, they and or a group of teachers want to go back to teach in a classroom, but the teachers Union is blocking their return request.
Cause that’s not happening.
The teachers Union is not making unilateral decision on return to the classroom. Instead the teachers Union is polling their paying members on what they want. It is clear the MDUSD teachers are dictating to their Union they will not go back to the classroom. Therefore the majority rules and the Union must defend the position.
Maybe a parents protest by not allowing their children to attend zoom classes and not excusing the absence will help speed up the return process. If we hit them in the pocketbook it’ll have some weight. As MDUSD has stated they’re looking at layoffs next year. Good, out with the lazies. Keep the financial pressure up and they’ll cave. It’s the tenured teachers that are the problem as there is no incentive and they’ll be last on the chopping block.
Teachers and your respective Union. Enjoy your power now, as it’s unsustainable and change is coming.
Haven’t seen one teacher? Not on this thread, but others have certainly voice their opinion to the trolls on here. Go back and read the comments and see what they have to say before casting judgement.
As far as the teachers dictating to the union that is pure BS. They want to go back, but they want to go back with a plan in place. Dr Clark and the Board do not have one YET! So would you go back to work at your job if your boss just said “hey come back, but we dont know how things are going to be, or if you are going to have your kids, or how long you are going to work, or if the place will be clean?” I don’t think you would.
So use your head and think about it. Oh and no a change is not going to come. The union like all unions are here to stay, because that is what protects workers from people like the ones on here. I am not even a union employee or a teacher, but I am educated and know my stuff on this subject.
So JimC
I received my weekly email from Adam today, the Friday Letter for parents of students in this district. If you click through it, it shows that they are waiting on … wait for it … you guessed it … THE TEACHERS UNION! It aint the board …
So tell your teacher daughter and her friends to push the union to respond (realistically) and report for duty.
You like to ask questions, would you still have a job if you failed to show up to the job site for months on end and your customers (our students) were crying for help? My guess is your would not.
You are not as educated as you think you are on this subject …
Yes, hold out until school on site is back.
Teachers can get vaccinated as of this week. What excuse will they come up with next?
I agree.
My wife just got her first after 3 days of trying to get an appt. Have you SEEN the line at the coliseum?! And that’s the only place available for all of Coco, alameda, and solano county. The teachers are in line with all three counties. The best way is to have a dedicated place for just teachers. That way they can do it faster. Then y’all’s Bebe kids can go back to class. I’m sick and tired of hearing the whining. The union is NOT holding out (contrary to popular belief), the school district wants to force the teachers back i. WITHOUT proper precautions. Most of the posters here have NO clue what the teachers are going through. When the district comes up w a GOOD plan, the union will be on board.
@Jazzman Yep, I’ve seen the “line” at the coliseum. Went yesterday in fact. Is there a lot of cars? Yes, they are vaccinating many people. Did I have to wait long? Nope, not at all. I was in and out super quick. Very small price to pay. They have a very organized and strategic system in place.
Now, tell me why teachers can’t possibly be expected to drive to the Coliseum to be vaccinated like everyone else. You’re really proving the point here about a sense of entitlement amongst some members of a large and corrupt union.
Fire teachers because children don’t know the meaning of distance and will sneeze in your face. Good choice! Kids are germ factories, and get teachers and staff sick every year. No one wants their lungs to turn to glass.
Additionally, education and childcare workers are likely to be vaccinated by the end of March. The health care concerns will be drop dramatically, and we may be able to return this year. Please get the vaccination as well, unless you have a medical reason not to.
The Zoom out will create an opportunity for students who remain. I’m sure your teacher would love the chance to have a smaller group and give students more attention. They have been ask for this for decades. You can get the Zoom off if you want, but it will likely only provide you with a short break. Just like any other job, you still have to do your work.
Yes if this is to put heat on MDUSD, not necessarily a good idea if this is going to create a division between teachers and students. Students use to support teachers for higher compensation and reduced classroom size.
You do all know that teachers will still get paid right? They have a contract!
So you are only hurting your own child, but then again you think your child isn’t learning. So then go right on and let them watch youtube since that’s what they do when they are in class anyways. Just saying.
YES! If your a parent and can’t afford private school and are able to have someone or yourself stay home then enroll in K12 online school
Excellent school public funded like brick and mortar and you can have more control what your kid actually learns. Don’t hold your breath and think MDUSD will open in the fall
I absolutely love this idea! I wonder how the L.A. DA and Gavin bin Lyin embrace this civil disobedience as much as the rioting and looting?
We have finally reached a point where there are enough support for school vouchers for all students. It’s time to free up the and change the education system.
Totally concur Strad. School Choice is today’s biggest civil rights issue, and the biggest opponent to a voucher system is the teachers union and the Democratic Party. The rich don’t have to put up with this crap. They just send their kids to private schools. When will the working people of California wake up? Stop voting for Democrats.
Absolutely, Strad and JRocks! Parents should be given the option of vouchers for their children…now is the time to ‘reimagine’ our public school system that is barely mediocre at best!
Will this group of “leaders” at MDEA commit to anything?
Are they waiting for all teachers to be vaccinated? What happens when we reach the Red Tier?
Will the 51% of teachers stand up to their organized crime union? If not, they are just as guilty as their union in this disaster.
Wednesday proved who is holding our kids education hostage, it’s MDEA front and center.
Zoom blackouts are a good start. Distance NON LEARNING is failing our kids.
No. Wait until the next election and vote in new board members. AND SAY NO TO ANY SCHOOL BONDS OR PARCEL TAX!
I truly have to say, the teachers are going to be in danger of children who developed a mental illness from the pandemic. I can only pray 🙏
A blackout from students will only cause things to get worse. I really feel afraid for the teachers, guessing that students developing a mental illness.I will definitely pray for the teachers
I have always supported most teachers. There are a few I would like to see
Go. With that said, online classes in this district is a JOKE. From my point of view our child logs in at 9:00 and is done daily by 12:30. In that time has about an hour lunch and 2 5 minute breaks. We have no homework or independent class work. I don’t understand why the time is so much less online. If the kids were in class they would have more learning time. Why are they not online for an entire school day? I would also like to add that Wednesday prep day is still happening with class from 9:00 to 10:30. Why do we need prep day when they are only in class for 2 hours a day. Are teachers still being paid their regular pay?
And as an example;
My 3rd grade Granddaughter has spent the past three days building (during class) a paper house that can withstand a wind storm. So much for worthwhile education. Her class even watched a video on types of windstorms. This is productive class time for a 3rd grader?
No, it’s just busy work so the teacher can continue to get paid. Yes the teachers seem to really be only babysitting.
I hear Elrorado Hills up near Placerville is totally opening all classes on Monday.
… yes – try it – nothing else is working
Yes! We’d do it. The schools won’t get paid if the students are absent. Money talks louder than politicians.
In some places it’s illegal for tax-funded public servants to strike. EMS, transit, garbagemen, teachers – all illegal to strike. Growing up our teachers had a picket line and the Union bargained for each teacher to have a few hours per day outside to work their efforts. It was pretty educational.
Mark my words, after the vaccinations are available to all teachers and a representative number of them have gotten it, the narrative will change to ventilation. The teachers union will claim that the ventilation in the building is substandard and they’ll need to review inspections and testing to determine if the sites themselves are safe for the teachers to return. (they won’t be) There is no money and no time to correct the ‘deadly buildings’ prior to the end of the school year, and odds are good it’ll affect fall classes starting too.
This was alluded to at the board meeting, that the terrible Northgate facility has no windows or ventilation, but there’s no budget to correct it….. tossing a softball to the union.
Back in my day there was an anti war walk out, and I think 99% of the students did it even though maybe 20 to 50 percent were anti-war. We all just wanted to screw around on the tarmac and have second recess.
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