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The Water Cooler – Do You Plan To Vote “Yes” Or “No” On Pro.16?

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67 comments

QUESTION: Do you plan to vote “yes” or “no” on proposition 16?

67 comments


caskydiver October 15, 2020 - 12:09 PM - 12:09 PM

NO. Hiring should be based on merit alone….the best person for the job should fill the job. When that is done, everyone benefits.

MoJo October 15, 2020 - 12:11 PM - 12:11 PM

Affirmative action all over again? Big NO! We dealt with this nonsense back in the 80’s. Hire based on performance and necessary skills, not skin color, religious beliefs, sexual orientation or any other factors. The reparations, I’m woke BS needs to stop now.

Bob October 15, 2020 - 12:11 PM - 12:11 PM

Sure, what could possibly be bad about legalized discrimination?

Ash October 15, 2020 - 2:52 PM - 2:52 PM

AMEN!!

God bless

Wage Slave October 15, 2020 - 5:33 PM - 5:33 PM

Even the framing of the prop on the ballot is a lie. They state it is to allow the state to take “diversity” into account for hiring. In reality, they are repealing ENTIRELY prop 209 passed in ’96 that “prohibit state governmental institutions from considering race, sex, or ethnicity, specifically in the areas of public employment, public contracting, and public education.”

Voting yes on this proposition legalizes discrimination by the state, period. Just because they say they will use it for a (debatable) good end, doesn’t mean squat. When has government ever not abused power we grant it? They will use government resources to cater to preferred voting blocks and punish political enemies. It will literally legalize Jim Crow for the state government. You are just taking their word for it that they wont abuse it.

Dawg October 15, 2020 - 12:12 PM - 12:12 PM

I don’t plan to vote on anything, because I already voted.

BOOYAH! October 15, 2020 - 12:14 PM - 12:14 PM

Quotas over merit? Don’t think so.

The Fearless Spectator October 15, 2020 - 12:16 PM - 12:16 PM

No. I have never been a fan of racial discrimination.

If companies don’t hire the best person for the job, the product or service suffers. Newsom’s idea of enforced discrimination in corporate boards of directors is a formula for failure. Diversity without excellence is a failure. When people of all colors or orientations work at being the best they can be, the diversity will take care of itself.

Exit 12A October 15, 2020 - 12:19 PM - 12:19 PM

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NO.
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‘should be based only on qualifications.

Basing on color or ethnicity is RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.

Ricardoh October 15, 2020 - 12:19 PM - 12:19 PM

Absolutely NO.

Jacknife October 15, 2020 - 12:25 PM - 12:25 PM

NO on 16

stoptheinsanity October 15, 2020 - 12:27 PM - 12:27 PM

I voted no.

redrazor October 15, 2020 - 12:29 PM - 12:29 PM

Hire the BEST PERSON/ MOST QUALIFIED for the job.
“Diversity” …. MY A$$.

The Professor October 15, 2020 - 12:35 PM - 12:35 PM

This proposition is an absolute NO for me.

The hypocricy of the left knows no bounds. It’s right there in the “Pro” section.
“Prop 16 expands equal opportunity for all Californians…fights systematic racism…” Can someone please explain to me how codifying systematic racism fights systematic racism? Either systematic racism is good, or it is not.

Only a true racist, sexist, or xenophobe would think that this Pandora’s Box is a good idea.

Concordejet October 15, 2020 - 12:36 PM - 12:36 PM

A BIG FAT NO

LL Cool J October 15, 2020 - 12:39 PM - 12:39 PM

Hire based on merit only, never on quotas.

Sancho Panza October 15, 2020 - 12:44 PM - 12:44 PM

A big NO for me!

walnut creek oldtimer October 15, 2020 - 12:50 PM - 12:50 PM

Big fat NO!

franko October 15, 2020 - 12:51 PM - 12:51 PM

No. As many of us have done, work hard and earn the position.

Alan October 15, 2020 - 12:59 PM - 12:59 PM

yes I did!

Ash October 15, 2020 - 2:51 PM - 2:51 PM

do you believe that non-whites are victims? then everyone should have an equal chance to do there best and winner gets the job. otherwise it becomes socialism, corrupt and a failure.

FPN October 15, 2020 - 12:59 PM - 12:59 PM
Steve October 15, 2020 - 1:04 PM - 1:04 PM

2 people apply for a government job. Their qualifications and suitability are equal, Why not consider diversity in the workplace as a factor?

Mitch October 15, 2020 - 1:49 PM - 1:49 PM

Because that isn’t how it will work.

The path to hell is paved with good intentions.

Exit 12A October 15, 2020 - 1:50 PM - 1:50 PM

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Because it is discriminatory.
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Let me paraphrase: “Judge by content of character (qualification), not by the color of skin.”
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tashaj October 15, 2020 - 2:38 PM - 2:38 PM

You must be a theoretical physicist, since they are the only ones considering the problems of which of the round dogs on a frictionless surface will win the race.
In reality, there is never a situation when qualifications and suitability of two candidates are exactly the same. Never-ever. And usually the “diversity” factor is brought up to push for hiring a less qualified/less suitable candidate.

The Fearless Spectator October 15, 2020 - 2:45 PM - 2:45 PM

Two people apply for a government job. Their qualifications and suitability are equal. Why not consider breast size as a factor?

Discrimination is discrimination. There is no place for it.

Rollo Tomasi October 15, 2020 - 3:17 PM - 3:17 PM

If 2 people apply for a government job and their qualifications and suitability are equal, further consideration based on immutable characteristics is discriminatory.

Darwin October 15, 2020 - 1:04 PM - 1:04 PM

It’s been happening since affirmative action. It’s just not on paper. Just look at Kaisers management. J

idiots everywhere October 15, 2020 - 1:31 PM - 1:31 PM

The add I saw last night indicated Pro funding from Kaiser….Hmmm.

KT October 15, 2020 - 1:12 PM - 1:12 PM

I highly believe that someone should be hired on qualifications and not by the color of their skin. I once worked for a software company and when I got back from vacation and I got fired for what my coworker, who was Black, did when I wasn’t even there. I was told by my manager that it was safer to fire me and not my coworker because then the company would be looking at a lawsuit. I was young and I didn’t know that I could have filed a lawsuit for being wrongfully fired.

Calmom October 15, 2020 - 1:13 PM - 1:13 PM

ABSOLUTELY NO

Toeknee October 15, 2020 - 1:23 PM - 1:23 PM

It’s like picking a Vice President, not based on merits, trust, qualities, accomplishments or qualifications required for the job. One just cannot wear enough kente cloth to pander for votes.
I vote NO.

Original G October 15, 2020 - 1:27 PM - 1:27 PM

How did this insanity even make it onto the ballot ?

Then again voters elected a person to a high position of trust who LIED about being Native American and her political party allowed her to represent them as a presidential candidate/

Speaks volumes about that party.

Oh, please October 15, 2020 - 8:53 PM - 8:53 PM

Liberals pandering for votes. That’s how.

Tugboat October 15, 2020 - 1:31 PM - 1:31 PM

A big NO.

Tugboat October 15, 2020 - 1:33 PM - 1:33 PM

A big NO

David October 15, 2020 - 2:04 PM - 2:04 PM

Walk into a local post office or DMV office and note the diversity of employees.
Discrimination is not an issue in Government employment. Rules are already in place. This is a con job that will open opportunities for discrimination.
Vote NO..

Damon Kent October 15, 2020 - 2:28 PM - 2:28 PM

YES SIR! TRUMP 2020

Ash October 15, 2020 - 2:48 PM - 2:48 PM

AMEN!

make lefties heads explode again for another 8 years!

ERas October 15, 2020 - 7:41 PM - 7:41 PM

8??? Um Ash… think you mean 4…

Ash October 15, 2020 - 2:48 PM - 2:48 PM

anything put on by the legislature has to be corrupt, so HELL NO!

Kris October 15, 2020 - 2:53 PM - 2:53 PM

already voted no

Steven Powers October 15, 2020 - 3:31 PM - 3:31 PM
Did I Say That Out Loud October 15, 2020 - 3:40 PM - 3:40 PM

No.

Madeline October 15, 2020 - 3:44 PM - 3:44 PM

No on 16. It’s affirmative action all over again. It stunk then, and it stinks now.

Gititogether October 15, 2020 - 4:16 PM - 4:16 PM

Wasn’t this the basis for nazism?

bdml October 15, 2020 - 4:44 PM - 4:44 PM

NO NO NO it is racism

Led October 15, 2020 - 4:47 PM - 4:47 PM

Nope. Equality under the law, equal treatment by our government. As basic as it gets.

Even if you’re tempted by the reasoning for it, just consider how hopelessly divided we will be if this kind of thing takes hold. State-defined tribalism gets a hard pass from me.

Kentucky Derby October 15, 2020 - 4:48 PM - 4:48 PM

No on 16. California is diverse, and doesn’t need this. It would make more sense in a state that lacks diversity, where they’re concerned the workforce would be all white, etc.

As far as women, women are easily out earning men these days. This isn’t the 50s.

Ano October 15, 2020 - 7:29 PM - 7:29 PM

You are very wrong . Women still make on average 80 cents per $1 every man makes .

Aside from your grossly negligent statement , this is a hard NO on prop 16.
For the love of God can we please stop with all the race craziness.

Rollo Tomasi October 16, 2020 - 10:13 AM - 10:13 AM

Ano, please tell me you’re not still relying on a long ago debunked myth.

https://fee.org/articles/harvard-study-gender-pay-gap-explained-entirely-by-work-choices-of-men-and-women/

Kentucky Derby October 16, 2020 - 1:15 PM - 1:15 PM

Women can easily earn as much as men if they ASK for more. People aren’t paid what they’re worth. They’re paid what they NEGOTIATE. Men are likely to ask for more if for no other reason, most men have wives and children to support. Ask and you shall RECEIVE.

Lazy One October 15, 2020 - 4:51 PM - 4:51 PM

NO!!

Chicken Little October 15, 2020 - 5:24 PM - 5:24 PM

Hell no. Discrimination is discrimination. The recent wave of white guilt the country is riding is a huge overreaction to problems that absolutely exist, but would be better remedied with more subtle solutions.

Concord74 October 16, 2020 - 8:20 AM - 8:20 AM

“C-Little”: white guilt is not a factor as the funding and support by the likes of George Soros, Zuckenberg, CEO of Google, Gates,etc. Big money buys a lot of looters and protestors.

snappy97 October 15, 2020 - 5:52 PM - 5:52 PM

I voted No. We don’t need affirmative action.

ClayDen October 15, 2020 - 8:02 PM - 8:02 PM

As long as they apply it to all jobs, including the NBA and the NFL.

Lost Pride October 15, 2020 - 8:02 PM - 8:02 PM

NO!!!!

ConcordDad October 15, 2020 - 8:34 PM - 8:34 PM

I don’t think Race, Sex or any of that should even be on an application. Just put the experience you have and that’s it. May the best candidate get the job.

I’m not a Conservative or a Liberal and I voted NO

The Wizard October 15, 2020 - 8:44 PM - 8:44 PM

No !

Winston October 15, 2020 - 9:52 PM - 9:52 PM

Prop 16 is super racist. The government should treat people equally, not put the finger on the scale to “help” the people the government deems inferior.

jjshawk October 15, 2020 - 10:19 PM - 10:19 PM

Voting No! There’s already plenty of diversity, just take a look around. In the of “fairness” job markets, both public and private sectors, need to focus on being merit-based.

Concord74 October 16, 2020 - 8:22 AM - 8:22 AM

KAISER

redrazor October 16, 2020 - 11:26 AM - 11:26 AM

Speaking of TV ads ……. am I the only one who’s noticed that (almost) every single TV ad from laundry detergent to automobiles to health products has at least 20 to 90% minority actors.(people of color)?!?? I’d say that there’s already way more diversity in most multi-media formats than could every have been imagined 5 years ago. I voted NO on Prop. 16.

Jessica October 16, 2020 - 12:05 PM - 12:05 PM

This question was posed SOLELY to bait an argument.

It has been proven TIME AND TIME AGAIN in a number of studies that people are discriminated against on ethnic-sounding names ALONE. Much MORE when they are seen.

There was a study several years back in which identical applications were submitted to colleges with only the names changed and the acceptance rate was far higher for those with “white” sounding names than those with non-white sounding names.

It’s a no-brainer to encourage hiring based on diversity because when it comes to minorities “merit-alone” means that if an equally qualified white person applies, you’re less likely to be the chosen one.

The Fearless Spectator October 16, 2020 - 2:44 PM - 2:44 PM

So now it’s a name problem?

Is that why Mike Huckabee didn’t get elected president?

If you own a company, and want your product or service to be the best it can be, you hire on merit alone. If you hire based on a race or sex quota, the product or service will suffer.


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