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AT&T Hearing At CPUC Over Landlines Inundated With Telephone Comments

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On Tuesday, over 200 phone comments were heard by the California Public Utilities Commission over their consideration to release AT&T from its obligation to serve as the state’s carrier of last resort.

The carrier of last resort designation, or COLR, is a cornerstone of utility regulation. It obligates a carrier to serve all customers within their territory no matter where they live, even in places with spotty cellphone service.

AT&T has been the state’s COLR since 1996. It is the only state telecommunications carrier that operates landlines. If AT&T’s designation is removed, so goes the physical infrastructure for landline service.

The potential loss of landlines has irked thousands of customers and spurred local governments to take a stance. Recent letters and resolutions urging the CPUC to deny the application have been written by the boards of supervisors in the counties of Santa Clara, San Mateo, Marin, San Joaquin and San Francisco.

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The company’s application to the CPUC says, “To satisfy its COLR obligation to provide basic telephone service, AT&T California still operates a legacy network composed of copper lines and antiquated circuit switches.”

AT&T is also asking the commission to release it of its designation as an Eligible Telecommunications Carrier, or ETC. It authorizes the company to receive subsidies from federal and state Lifeline programs so it can provide reduced rates to lower-income customers. AT&T says it does not want the ETC designation because the Federal Communications Commission intends to discontinue its subsidies.

“AT&T California has committed to continue participating in the state LifeLine program (which does not require an ETC designation) so long as it offers basic service,” said the company in an email Tuesday.

According to Regina Costa with The Utility Reform Network, a nonprofit watchdog group that advocates for affordable power and phone service, the two designation requests are linked in a slight-of-hand to get out from regulations.

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If AT&T is released as the COLR, then it is no longer obligated to provide basic service.

“There’s the catch,” said Costa, “They are saying they will provide California LifeLine, but only where it has an obligation. At the same time, they are asking for a release of the obligation as carrier of last resort.

So, it’s really a lot of smoke and mirrors.”

Around 190,000 AT&T California customers receive LifeLine service through Federal Lifeline and California Lifeline, according to the Public Advocates Office at the CPUC. Basic service includes elements such as Lifeline rates for eligible customers, free access to 911, operator services and Telephone Relay Service, which allows people with hearing or speech disabilities to place and receive phone calls.

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Costa says that AT&T is allowed to offer LifeLine using Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP), which is a digital service that can be transmitted on either copper or fiber optic wires, but she says the company chooses not to do that.

“So, it is being pitched as if they are getting rid of these old, antiquated lines,” Costa said.

AT&T also co-owns most of the utility poles with PG&E, said Costa. “So, if you want to use the pole, you have to negotiate with AT&T.”

The Public Advocates Office said that AT&T reported that over 579,000 residential AT&T customers subscribe to copper landlines. “However, there are over 29 million Californians in AT&T’s service territory that may be impacted if the COLR obligation is removed.”

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“As we have pursued regulatory relief for more than a decade in other states, none of our traditional landline customers have lost service as a result,” AT&T said in an email Tuesday.

There have been a few back-and-forth revisions since the application was filed. In June, the Public Advocates Office filed a motion to dismiss an amended version. One reason, it said, was that AT&T has not named another carrier to be designated as a COLR.

“AT&T incorrectly assumes that the presence of a provider on a map is equivalent to actual availability of voice service for customers,” the filing said.

Finding a substitute that can provide phone service to California’s remote regions — through an infrastructure that can sustain wildfires, floods and earthquakes — is the challenge at hand for the company and policymakers.

In Tuesday’s meeting of the CPUC, supporters seemed to argue that if AT&T had to retain its COLR obligations, it would lessen the push for broadband access.

“Keeping up with modern technology is essential,” said one caller from Torrance. “The pandemic was an example of a dire need for broadband for remote learning and telehealth.”

Most callers urged the commission to deny AT&T’s request.

“Because of our statewide cost of living crisis, more older adults are having to live in rural and semi-rural areas of California,” said AARP’s David Azevedo on behalf of 3.2 million members. “These areas have some of the highest emergency risk factors in the state due to hazards such as wildfires and also have the highest risk of social isolation.”

Patricia Gutman said she worked in emergency communications in San Francisco during 1989’s Loma Prieta earthquake.

“We lost all cellular. We used call boxes and landlines,” Gutman said. “Conclusion — redundancy, redundancy, redundancy.”

The Public Advocates Office says the schedule for the CPUC to make its final decision has been postponed until at least April 30, which is the deadline for other providers to express interest in becoming the COLR for one or more census block groups currently covered by AT&T.

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domo March 21, 2024 - 12:09 PM - 12:09 PM

What doesn’t come out in the media is that the cost is embedded in the rates we pay – they’re tariffed – so they are really getting funded for the maintenance etc. for LL …. what they want to do is abandon LL then they will downsize field techs significantly! .. that’s where they would save big $$ and yet the rates would stay the same!

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Dorothy March 21, 2024 - 12:13 PM - 12:13 PM

Only just over 200 phoned in protests? Hope they were all from landlines.

“AT&T also co-owns most of the utility poles with PG&E, said Costa. “So, if you want to use the pole, you have to negotiate with AT&T.” ” I’ve suspected those two companies were in bed together, now I’m sure of it. Both have raised their customers bills pretty much in tandem. They both spend a lot PR money telling us how great they are and all the great things they are doing for us. Yeah, sure they are.

Confession time: Years ago I owned some stock in both. That was when both were considered safe investments for widows and orphans. The PG&E carelessness blew up a section of a town because they spent the rate increases to fix those conduits on dividends and raises. So I sold PG&E because I didn’t want to be a part of that. Not quite the same as AT&T but they got sold as well about the time they were being plagues with blackouts on top of blackouts because the rate increases for infrastructure went to dividends and raises. Might not be so bad if all those raises went to the people who do the actual work.

Feeling grumpy.

The want to walk away from customers so hopefully there will come a time when customers can walk away from them.

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Bella March 21, 2024 - 1:12 PM - 1:12 PM

First, received a notice of hearing via email @ 11:50 am on March 20, 2024 for a hearing CPUC Meeting Update on both applications by AT&T -Application 23-03-002: regarding the application of AT&T California to Withdraw its Eligible Telecommunications Carrier Designation
Application 23-03-003: regarding the application of AT&T California for Relief from its Carrier of Last Resort Obligation, for the following dates
Public Participation Hearing, March 19, 2024, at 2:00 p.m.
https://adminmonitor.com/ca/cpuc/hearing/20240319
Toll-free phone number: 1-800-857-1917; code: 6032788#

Public Participation Hearing, March 19, 2024, at 6:00 p.m.
https://adminmonitor.com/ca/cpuc/hearing/202403192
Toll-free phone number: 1-800-857-1917; code: 6032788#

As that did not work for obvious reasons, I reviewed not able to comment real time.

Secondly, regarding the The Utility Reform Network, a nonprofit watchdog group is “partially” correct in their assessment, in my opinion. Bigger picture. AT&T is pushing Cellular Service for ALL. A very savvy marketing strategy to monopolize. Such was the case when I had to call today to discuss my VoIP number today and before I could end the call, the tech, after more than one “no thank you” agressively pushing cell phone service and porting over my number NOW. (Yes normal to upsell, but the motive is clear to me, after almost two years experiencing Supervisors entering my home after their tech came in only to try and sell me on Cellular Service with probing questions until I cut them off.)

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Dorothy March 21, 2024 - 2:02 PM - 2:02 PM

And trying by email to sell or give cell phones to their customers.

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Captain Bebops March 21, 2024 - 1:49 PM - 1:49 PM

I had AT&T for several years and they couldn’t serve broadband decently on copper. Apparently their CEO at the time thought they could. So I canceled and enabled Comcast again. There are other services on AT&T’s copper but figured they would be just as problematical as AT&T riding on that copper. Not a big fan of Comcast but at least if they are out so are people’s TVs. So they are reliable if you do work relying on broadband.
 
Wave is also in the neighborhood but they stopped extending it down this street when they were bought and the new owners want to fix the systems they acquired in rural communities instead.

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Abe March 21, 2024 - 4:26 PM - 4:26 PM

AT&T will do what they want.

It matters not what the people say.

WC---Creeker March 21, 2024 - 5:05 PM - 5:05 PM

Believe the campaign contributions from AT&T far out weigh those from the phoned in commenters. AT&T will get what they want.

whenwilltheylearn March 21, 2024 - 5:33 PM - 5:33 PM

ATT sucks,and they denounce white people and you will never see a caucasian working there in the field,at the office ,or as a phone rep.They wont hire them.

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Atticus Thraxx March 21, 2024 - 6:04 PM - 6:04 PM

Anything that makes life difficult for AT&T is fine with me.

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Glen223 March 21, 2024 - 8:21 PM - 8:21 PM

Costa is only partially correct. PG&E owns the poles on which the distribution lines are installed; there’s a “joint pole” agreement where CATV or phone lines are also installed. The HV lines are on the top of the pole, and space is leased to others for their use at lower levels (heights) on the pole due to lower voltages.

That’s why you see a “JP” metal label on many poles.


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