You mean like tge one in Uvalde?? Didn’t do this children any good. I vote yes for
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domo
September 4, 2024 - 2:27 PM 2:27 PM
If you can’t have LE of some kind on campus then yes, with all intake going though a SPOC with detector
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Concord Guy
September 4, 2024 - 3:21 PM 3:21 PM
The common sense approach is to ban assault rifles. No one needs them except those intending to kill people as well as bereft politicians who pose with them in campaign commercials and Christmas cards.
Eventually “assault weapon” will mean any firearm (rifle, shotgun or pistol) with a semiautomatic action.
At present only the scariest looking semi automatic weapons are given the “assault” label, even tho all semi autos possess the same capability (one shot for each pull on the trigger) and all magazine capacities are limited to no more than 10 rounds in California.
So if people were killed with say something as pedestrian as say a Biden coach gun or bolt action rifle with a box magazine that would be acceptable to you?!?
How they were killed is incidental but obviously you cannot see past that.
The First Amendment would not exist without the Second, and our way of life along with it.
But every time there is a school shooting it gets disproportionate publicity and the anti-gunners (or their astro-turfing bots) come out of their basements and try to convince us that the very thing that keeps us free should be made illegal.
ANON,
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So, if all of the students are lined up outside of the school waiting to go through metal detectors, then you’re likely making all of those students a much bigger target to be shot while they’re all standing outside in a concentrated area.
ANON,
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So, if all of the students are lined up outside of the school waiting to go through metal detectors, then you’re likely making all of those students a much bigger target to be shot while they’re all standing outside in a concentrated area.
CYN,
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Many high schools have hundreds or thousands of students, where do you expect them to be if they’re required to wait to go through metal dectors before entering school? I’m only looking at this logically, the line will move slightly faster than a TSA security line.
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Yoyohop
September 4, 2024 - 8:01 PM 8:01 PM
The chances of your kid getting shot at a school shooting are about the same as them getting struck by lightning. We should not be normalizing Mass surveillance
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Fed Up
September 5, 2024 - 6:51 AM 6:51 AM
The real question is why there is no respect for life! Life used to be respected, now not so much. We did not have “School Shootings” in the past; what changed? The “Drive By” mentality seems to permeate now.
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Well Folks
September 5, 2024 - 7:24 AM 7:24 AM
Considering most of the schools in Contra Costa county are open wing schools they would need more than one metal detector which is very costly. SRO’s are fine but what’s to stop a shooter from shooting the SRO in the back to carry out the plan?
Not sure why things have become so violent in schools and this country in general. Maybe more money needs to be spent across the board on mental health and then the need for metal detectors and SRO’s would dissipate.
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Dr. Jellyfinger
September 5, 2024 - 7:47 AM 7:47 AM
If I’m a student and I jam an AR15 in my backpack you won’t need a metal detector to find it. Even with a collapsible stock the barrel is still gona stick out…. you may find pistols & knives with it tho, but most schools don’t funnel all the students thru one entrance.
I’d rather see surprise locker inspections and random frisking done by resource officers (spare me the ACLU speeches – the troublemakers and crazies are the only students who will complain). Drastic measures? Yeah, but it will get the drugs & weapons off campus.
I suspect parents are better at locking up pistols than rifles, but ultimately…. if the kid gets a hold of Daddy’s rifle or a handy home defense weapon and misuses it then parents are responsible.
If your kid is on the edge (you know who you are) you should lock up the firearms in a real gun safe or sell them.
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Barbie
September 5, 2024 - 7:55 AM 7:55 AM
My brother went to Berkeley High in the 70s-80s. They had metal detectors then. It didn’t damage the kids mental health. My kids high school is wide open. It doesn’t even have gates or a fence around the school. They constantly have classroom lockdowns for any number of reasons.
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WC Resident
September 5, 2024 - 8:19 AM 8:19 AM
There’s no need for metal detectors, nor SROs, which each cost about $200,000 per year. $200,000 per year buys a teacher with materials and a classroom which is more valuable on a day to day basis than metal detectors or SROs.
There is a need for law enforcement to be a bit more aggressive at chasing down a suspected shooter. At Parkside in Florida the LEO who also was an SRO, stood outside the building and listened the shooting while waiting for backups. At Uvalde hundreds of LEO waited outside until someone had the balls to open an unlocked door and to kill the shooter. They may wear big hats but balls are in short supply in Florida and Texas. The attacker gets to chose the time and place of the initial attack but you need to keep them balance, worrying about the counterpunch.
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Original G
September 5, 2024 - 10:44 AM 10:44 AM
By all means focus on tool used by a mental defective.
How about a fresh approach, improving mental health?
Get rid of stigma, the problem of which we do not speak.
.
More suggestions, have you ?
The mental health system is still in the stone age as we have little to no idea of how the brain or mind works. We have no way of testing or measuring if someone is mentally “healthy” or “not.” For those deemed “not healthy” we have no ability to cause the needle to change to “healthy.”
.
Many years ago a friend had gotten caught up in the jail and mental health system with court ordered treatment. I told him much what I posted in the previous paragraph and for him to tell the therapists “I’m cured and feel fine.” The mental health system reported back to the court that they had cured him. He was released.
.
We have no way of reliably detecting or knowing if someone intends to harm others or will later develop the intent to harm others. That’s also the case for people who are scrutinized more carefully than most of us, such as law enforcement officers. Think about the number of professional athletes that turn out to have serious mental issues. Professional sports teams are billion dollar enterprises and yet are unable to detect, much less fix, issues among the athletes.
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anon
September 5, 2024 - 5:25 PM 5:25 PM
Why do they have metal detectors in Airports, Court houses, and night clubs but not in schools?
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Here's an idea
September 6, 2024 - 12:14 PM 12:14 PM
How about providing real mental health services to confused young people instead of catering to their delusions.
FPN
September 9, 2024 - 9:20 AM 9:20 AM
Who would or could come up with excuses for not having metal detectors? Please use whatever means to keep our children safe.
No. SRO is the best solution unless we ask every students to wear bulletproof vests.
Please explain SRO. Thank you.
School Resource Officer
Basically a police officer that’s on school grounds.
If I have to guess, I would guess school resource officer.
You mean like tge one in Uvalde?? Didn’t do this children any good. I vote yes for
If you can’t have LE of some kind on campus then yes, with all intake going though a SPOC with detector
The common sense approach is to ban assault rifles. No one needs them except those intending to kill people as well as bereft politicians who pose with them in campaign commercials and Christmas cards.
What Exactly is an “assault rifle?” The Military does not use what you can buy Legally! So what are you talking about. Be Specific Please.
Eventually “assault weapon” will mean any firearm (rifle, shotgun or pistol) with a semiautomatic action.
At present only the scariest looking semi automatic weapons are given the “assault” label, even tho all semi autos possess the same capability (one shot for each pull on the trigger) and all magazine capacities are limited to no more than 10 rounds in California.
So if people were killed with say something as pedestrian as say a Biden coach gun or bolt action rifle with a box magazine that would be acceptable to you?!?
How they were killed is incidental but obviously you cannot see past that.
The First Amendment would not exist without the Second, and our way of life along with it.
But every time there is a school shooting it gets disproportionate publicity and the anti-gunners (or their astro-turfing bots) come out of their basements and try to convince us that the very thing that keeps us free should be made illegal.
Are you serious? Please stay on topic.
Or how about gun free zones. Oh I forget that does not work. YES metal detectors please.
Student Resource Officer
ANON,
.
So, if all of the students are lined up outside of the school waiting to go through metal detectors, then you’re likely making all of those students a much bigger target to be shot while they’re all standing outside in a concentrated area.
The students are targets all day long. It works in our federal courts. When was the last time one of our courts was shot up? Metal detectors please.
Yes, they should have metal detectors as a detterent. The shooting in Georgia had an SRO on campus and 4 people were killed.
2 SROs stopped the suspect after initial call. It could be worse without the officers.
ANON,
.
So, if all of the students are lined up outside of the school waiting to go through metal detectors, then you’re likely making all of those students a much bigger target to be shot while they’re all standing outside in a concentrated area.
@The Black Knight
“Anon” never said to line up all the students. Please don’t start posting as if you’re “JWB”.
CYN,
.
Many high schools have hundreds or thousands of students, where do you expect them to be if they’re required to wait to go through metal dectors before entering school? I’m only looking at this logically, the line will move slightly faster than a TSA security line.
The chances of your kid getting shot at a school shooting are about the same as them getting struck by lightning. We should not be normalizing Mass surveillance
The real question is why there is no respect for life! Life used to be respected, now not so much. We did not have “School Shootings” in the past; what changed? The “Drive By” mentality seems to permeate now.
Considering most of the schools in Contra Costa county are open wing schools they would need more than one metal detector which is very costly. SRO’s are fine but what’s to stop a shooter from shooting the SRO in the back to carry out the plan?
Not sure why things have become so violent in schools and this country in general. Maybe more money needs to be spent across the board on mental health and then the need for metal detectors and SRO’s would dissipate.
If I’m a student and I jam an AR15 in my backpack you won’t need a metal detector to find it. Even with a collapsible stock the barrel is still gona stick out…. you may find pistols & knives with it tho, but most schools don’t funnel all the students thru one entrance.
I’d rather see surprise locker inspections and random frisking done by resource officers (spare me the ACLU speeches – the troublemakers and crazies are the only students who will complain). Drastic measures? Yeah, but it will get the drugs & weapons off campus.
I suspect parents are better at locking up pistols than rifles, but ultimately…. if the kid gets a hold of Daddy’s rifle or a handy home defense weapon and misuses it then parents are responsible.
If your kid is on the edge (you know who you are) you should lock up the firearms in a real gun safe or sell them.
My brother went to Berkeley High in the 70s-80s. They had metal detectors then. It didn’t damage the kids mental health. My kids high school is wide open. It doesn’t even have gates or a fence around the school. They constantly have classroom lockdowns for any number of reasons.
There’s no need for metal detectors, nor SROs, which each cost about $200,000 per year. $200,000 per year buys a teacher with materials and a classroom which is more valuable on a day to day basis than metal detectors or SROs.
There is a need for law enforcement to be a bit more aggressive at chasing down a suspected shooter. At Parkside in Florida the LEO who also was an SRO, stood outside the building and listened the shooting while waiting for backups. At Uvalde hundreds of LEO waited outside until someone had the balls to open an unlocked door and to kill the shooter. They may wear big hats but balls are in short supply in Florida and Texas. The attacker gets to chose the time and place of the initial attack but you need to keep them balance, worrying about the counterpunch.
By all means focus on tool used by a mental defective.
How about a fresh approach, improving mental health?
Get rid of stigma, the problem of which we do not speak.
.
More suggestions, have you ?
The mental health system is still in the stone age as we have little to no idea of how the brain or mind works. We have no way of testing or measuring if someone is mentally “healthy” or “not.” For those deemed “not healthy” we have no ability to cause the needle to change to “healthy.”
.
Many years ago a friend had gotten caught up in the jail and mental health system with court ordered treatment. I told him much what I posted in the previous paragraph and for him to tell the therapists “I’m cured and feel fine.” The mental health system reported back to the court that they had cured him. He was released.
.
We have no way of reliably detecting or knowing if someone intends to harm others or will later develop the intent to harm others. That’s also the case for people who are scrutinized more carefully than most of us, such as law enforcement officers. Think about the number of professional athletes that turn out to have serious mental issues. Professional sports teams are billion dollar enterprises and yet are unable to detect, much less fix, issues among the athletes.
Why do they have metal detectors in Airports, Court houses, and night clubs but not in schools?
How about providing real mental health services to confused young people instead of catering to their delusions.
Who would or could come up with excuses for not having metal detectors? Please use whatever means to keep our children safe.