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The Water Cooler – PG&E Bills Are About To Increase Again – When Will It End?


The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it.

The “Water Cooler” will be up Monday-Friday in the noon hour.

PG&E bills are about to increase, thanks to a state judge’s approval of PG&E’s request to raise rates. 


QUESTION: Everything is increasing in price. PG&E, garbage, water, everything. Since we all know the prices won’t go back down, when do you think they’ll stop going up? 

Talk about it.


Original G February 6, 2024 - 12:05 PM - 12:05 PM

For lower bills, STOP electing DEM politicians to state government.

Captain Bebops February 6, 2024 - 5:02 PM - 5:02 PM

What do dems have to do with Vanguard and Black Rock? They are the principle stockholders. There’s the problem.

Fed Up February 8, 2024 - 9:33 AM - 9:33 AM


S February 6, 2024 - 12:21 PM - 12:21 PM

My usage went down 18%; the recent bill???? Up 27%
Bills will continue to go up……
GHEEZE ! ! !

Sancho Panza February 6, 2024 - 12:21 PM - 12:21 PM

The shakedown of society will continue until we all decide to protest by not paying the exorbitant rates. It is clear to me that we are being softened up for ‘future shocks.’

Itsme February 7, 2024 - 4:36 PM - 4:36 PM

Agree, wish we could but who would be able to get through those times when we need heat and air when they turn it off for not Paying our bills? They’ve got us by the proverbial balls. The dangers of infrastructure monopolies. Maybe we should start voting for CPUC board instead of having them appointed.

Sancho Panza February 8, 2024 - 1:02 PM - 1:02 PM

Itsme, although you agree…they’ve perfected how they want us to feel–a state of despondency. As we capitulate to their increasing fees and are fleeced, they are planning to save us from ‘our’ financial demise…that they created. We are in a controlled self-destructive state of motion that will end with folks begging to be saved, thus giving up liberty to reestablish utility security. The will of the people is powerful, if only they believe it!

Original G February 6, 2024 - 12:38 PM - 12:38 PM

‘Report from CPUC Public Advocate Finds CA Residential Electricity Prices
More than 2X the National Average’
“We don’t hear much about California’s “decarbonization work,” the state’s and California Public Utility Commission’s flawed scheme to reducing greenhouse gas emissions. But we see the painful results in our monthly electricity bills.
The Public Advocates Office at the California Public Utilities Commission, published a new report which found PG&E residential electricity prices are more than double the national average. The report also found PG&E rates have gone up 92% in less than 10 years. And PG&E is back at the CPUC asking for even higher rates.
For current electricity rates, the report found that the residential electricity rates went up 38% from Jan. 2021 to Sept. 2023.”
caglobe https://tinyurl.com/ycykrkrv
PG&E residential electricity prices are more than double the national average.

DOH February 6, 2024 - 12:40 PM - 12:40 PM

Why do all their rates keep going up? I thought the CPUC was supposed to be on our side.
The garbage just went up 20% across 2 raises to collect compost. AT&T is forcing all to go to cell phone only.

MAGA SAM February 6, 2024 - 9:34 PM - 9:34 PM

Because this state is run by the democrats you voted for. You screwed us all. Democrats are obsessed with cutting carbon based life off. You will never get it will you?

Dawg February 6, 2024 - 12:41 PM - 12:41 PM

It’ll never happen, the price of goods never stop going up. It can slow down, but with PG&E, it won’t even slow down. When it comes to politics, large corporations, and government run agencies, such as the California Public Utilities Commission, there is too much corruption, and money involved. One thing to remember, the CPUC is not on the side of the consumer, every one of them was appointed by the governor.

Chuq February 6, 2024 - 1:21 PM - 1:21 PM

Makes you wonder why Governor Schwarzenegger vetoed utility regulation.

Dr. Jellyfinger February 7, 2024 - 8:07 AM - 8:07 AM

Well geez Chuq, Arnold has been out of office for 13 years…. a better question is why haven’t Democrats done anything about it since then?


Never Enough February 6, 2024 - 12:52 PM - 12:52 PM

Garbage, Sewer Fees and Water rate increases are approved by City Council. Garbage specifically for business is up almost up 30% in last 4 years. They just raised it another 6% in January.

But let’s cap landlord rate increases to 60% of inflation.

Anon February 6, 2024 - 12:55 PM - 12:55 PM

It ends when Claycord gets other options besides this monopoly.
Sacramento, Alameda have done it.
Fresno is attempting to do it.

Old Otis February 6, 2024 - 1:39 PM - 1:39 PM

The PUC always approves increases. Do they get paid by PG&E?

Claycordian February 7, 2024 - 9:01 PM - 9:01 PM

Change the PUC members. Bring in new members!

Old Otis February 6, 2024 - 1:46 PM - 1:46 PM

The CEO of PG&E gets a salary of OVER a MILLION dollars a year!
Must be nice. I wonder if they get a DISCOUNT ON THEIR BILL. Or they get power for FREE.

stove February 6, 2024 - 2:10 PM - 2:10 PM

PGE Employees generally get 25% off their bill. I have family that works there that told me about this.

Leeland February 6, 2024 - 6:17 PM - 6:17 PM

Show me a CEO who is not grossly overpaid

Captain Bebops February 7, 2024 - 9:16 AM - 9:16 AM

As well as narcissistic and an example of the Peter Principle. 😎

Old Timer February 6, 2024 - 2:24 PM - 2:24 PM

As long as we have corrupt people and politicians running this state it won’t stop.Its up to the citizens to stop it .Big question is how?

domo February 6, 2024 - 2:39 PM - 2:39 PM

It will end when voters wake up, do their research, and stop voting for incumbents that just support each other in the triad and not the citizens (Newscum, CPUC, & PG&E)

Old Timer February 6, 2024 - 4:27 PM - 4:27 PM

You are so right I can’t understand why these people that voted them in have their eyes closed and plugged ears.

concord grape February 6, 2024 - 3:15 PM - 3:15 PM

Old Otis, fyi total compensation for ceo Patricia Poppe in 2022 was $14,107,324

Old Otis February 6, 2024 - 3:39 PM - 3:39 PM

WOW! I didn’t know it was THAT much.

MAGA SAM February 6, 2024 - 9:38 PM - 9:38 PM

Nothing better than to watch democrats complain about CA cutting carbon based life. You love to cry about climate change. You love to vote for climate change crazed democrats. This is the result. I wish someone would send a mean tweet to pg&e. Go cry to gavin

MAGA SAM February 7, 2024 - 2:11 PM - 2:11 PM

It means exactly what I means. You’re in denial.

MAGA SAM February 7, 2024 - 4:10 PM - 4:10 PM

You are the carbon they want to reduce. Don’t get it twisted and mind your manners when you’re talking to me son. I’ve proven you a liar way too many times for you to speak to me with that tone. Now go get your shine box. And reduce yourself for the great good comrade

MAGA SAM February 7, 2024 - 8:51 PM - 8:51 PM

Triggered? I waste my time playing with you for fun. It’s really too bad Trump is dominating all aspects of politics right now. It worries me about your mental state going forward. The fear and panic you are feeling is justified. Everyone is catching on to your democrats pushing drugs and stupidity on society. Nobody cares about global warming. Only politicians and their useful idiots. While you keep paying that PG&E, my portfolio keeps growing. It’s over guy, Trump is already running the world. From china to the middle east to detroit and san francisco. This Trump country.

Dr. Jellyfinger February 8, 2024 - 6:26 AM - 6:26 AM

A “Pro Tip” as in a tip from a professional? LoL!
My don’t you think highly of yourself ……a pro……. Oh Martha!
I’ll bet the neighborhood kids ask “What do you do Mister JWB?”
“Why….. I’m a bombastic internet troll kids”.

Atticus Thraxx February 8, 2024 - 5:57 PM - 5:57 PM


JWB February 6, 2024 - 3:54 PM - 3:54 PM

Patricia Poppe made $51,198,471 in total compensation as Director and Chief Executive Officer at PG&E Corp in 2021. $9,432,221 was received as Total Cash, $41,175,002 was received as Equity and $591,248 was received as Pension and other forms of compensation. This information is derived from proxy statements filed for the 2021 fiscal year.

claycordian February 7, 2024 - 9:02 PM - 9:02 PM

This amount is obscene!!!

Claycordian February 7, 2024 - 9:05 PM - 9:05 PM

I’ll do the jb for half that amount! OR, even one third of that amount!!!

Tim February 6, 2024 - 3:29 PM - 3:29 PM

PG&E wants to base the utility bills on gross income. Would have access to your IRS tax records. What could possibly go wrong?

No Excuses February 6, 2024 - 3:31 PM - 3:31 PM

These are the PG&E companies listed on Stock Market.
CPUC does not hold regulatory power over all of them~ But they all swap spit~and we foot the bill.
PCG: PG&E Corporation
PCG-PA–Pacific Gas and Electric Company
PCG-PH–Pacific Gas and Electric Company
PCG-PC–Pacific Gas and Electric Company PFD 1ST 5%
PCG-PB: Pacific Gas and Electric Company
PRIVATE: PCG Investments
CEO Ms. Patricia Kessler Poppe CEO & Director $4.04 Million (last rep’d salary)

City of Concord slammed all of us (I think it was ‘all’) over into the MCE Clean Energy thing which raised our rates (clean ain’t cheap) and on top of that PG&E still got a fee for using their lines for distribution…which was an added expense.
I finally CANCELLED MCE (Marin County is/was pocketing “green rewards” money, ZERO benefit to CCCo. or Concord (unless Concord City Council was swapping spit too.)
I only saw about $5.00 lowering of my total bills over the few months from xcel MCE to this last PGE increase.


No Excuses February 6, 2024 - 3:39 PM - 3:39 PM

Concord Grape is probably correct on the $14+ million pay. My $4.4 million was found on just ONE of the many companies PG&E has. My question is: Are they buying gas/elec from some of their own holdings and then charging us Retail x2 for it?

The Professor February 8, 2024 - 7:26 AM - 7:26 AM

PCGPA, PCGPH, PCGPC, and PCGPB are not separate PG&E companies. They are preferred stocks, which are similar to a bond. They are considered equity (stock) for accounting purposes. They are similar to a bond because they pay a set quarterly dividend that does not change until the security matures. Often times there is no maturity date on the preferred shares.

Bob February 6, 2024 - 3:44 PM - 3:44 PM

When we own nothing and like it

Bobfished February 6, 2024 - 4:01 PM - 4:01 PM

If you do not vote for change and demand change nothing will change!

Dorothy February 6, 2024 - 4:29 PM - 4:29 PM

Who says it will ever end? Think of all the executive type salaries and dividends to shareholders that they must pay. I really get a kick out the shareholders. They don’t really do anything relating to the company’s purpose but want to be paid dividends for voting the stock. The company doesn’t get anything after they sell the shares because after that the share are sold by whomsoever owns some at whatever they can or can’t get for them. The way I see it the company could stop paying dividends and reduce the cost of the customers who pay to use PG&E services..

Anon February 6, 2024 - 4:32 PM - 4:32 PM

I would have thought that people would be okay with the prices. After all, PG&E is all onboard with the cause…….DEI, ESG, WEF.
The CEO Patti Poppe posted selfies from The World Economic Forum conference last year. This year, two PG&E VPs went instead.

A Utility has ZERO business or reason being involved in the WEF.

Abe February 6, 2024 - 4:53 PM - 4:53 PM

The rate increases will stop only when the people stand together and force the government to represent them once again.

Captain Bebops February 6, 2024 - 5:09 PM - 5:09 PM

Quite cavalier for PG&E to raise the rates at this time. They try to soften by telling us it’s to pay for the underground wiring they’re going to do. Did we demand it immediately? And some folks on this explained that would cause rates to increase to pay for it. I think PG&E is a bad model for a utility company and for the citizens of this state. They’re banking on us not raising a stink. Let’s smell the place up!

No Excuses February 6, 2024 - 8:25 PM - 8:25 PM

We already paid for undergrounding…CPUC let PG&E get by with using those funds for “other purposes.”

I wonder if the Pelosi and Newsom mansions are as flippin cold as my litte 3/2🤔

YOULIVEINTHEPAST February 6, 2024 - 5:20 PM - 5:20 PM

CPUC is supposed to regulate PG&E, but PG&E greases their hand by offering CPUC members executive positions at PG&E once they retire from CPUC. Can you be surprised? This is exactly how the opioid epidemic propagated — when Purdue Pharma hired that guy from the FDA!

Fed Up February 7, 2024 - 9:39 AM - 9:39 AM

Who is kidding whom? The State of CA wants rates to go up, so as to force people to use less energy! Rates are gonna go even higher, so as to get voters to pass the “rates based upon income” plan!

SamTheEagle February 7, 2024 - 3:14 PM - 3:14 PM

PGE has 12 more requests to increase our bills due to liability suits against them so we have to pay for their fu$k ups and the PUC has put those requests on hold for their own survivability because they know we are watching our bills are already 4xs what we paid! can you imagine if the forthcoming 12 requests are accepted and we pay for those issues in our energy bills and homeowners insurance as well that’s if you haven’t been denied by location!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
their jobs they know its on the line now! 12 more requests from PGE to increase our bills to pay for their f$ck ups do you understand that it’s being allowed by the Commie sh$tbags that vote these dirtbags in do you understand!!! It’s an allowance by vote that it’s OK we pay for those ASS %holes an their incompetence and they can’t do their job on behalf of WE THE PEOPLE we have allowed it!!! This sham of lack of vote and voice that is what they are counting on! It’s time our voice is heard not here but on a day that counts show up on that day and let it be heard this state is a COMMIE sh$tsh!ow dictatorship! our voices become smaller by intent they claim its a democracy we are a constitutional republic when you allow the the thought of democracy you allow the inmates to run the asylum that is democracy MOB RULE! you will never have a voice under MOB RULE democracy!!!! We will suffer every time democracy takes its place!!! F$ck these as$holes and show up on the day it counts and these days are getting smaller in this state in particular because the want of democracy is winning by design!! MOB RULE look at this state it’s a one party!!! Period they’ve currently won no question no argument look at this state!!! We have no voice unless we show up against MOB rule that’s where we are at!! Break the system of the inmates running the asylum that’s why we are in the breakdown of society in whole in California because the inmates are running the Asylum!!!! And in particular the poster child of where California is the Greasehead psychotic sociopathic lying as$hole that is our governer he has been at the forefront of it all he signed bills that allow PGE to Bill the people for PGE fundamental failures he allowed it!!! Start there with your vote!!!

No Excuses February 7, 2024 - 4:19 PM - 4:19 PM

I could not have said it better! Thank you Sam!👍🏼

Fed Up February 8, 2024 - 9:35 AM - 9:35 AM


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