The “Water Cooler” is a feature on Claycord.com where we ask you a question or provide a topic, and you talk about it.
Today’s Question: Do you think local refineries face enough accountability for their fires or other HazMat related incidents?
The Water Cooler – Do Local Refineries Face Enough Accountability?
Refining as with any other manufacturing process has many, many
variables which could cause upset in the process.
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Fines being assessed in CA to businesses, in many cases is what
might call little more than a shake down of businesses with deep
pockets, having metastasized into what some might call an out
of control cottage industry.
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Businesses need political stability and regulatory certainty
neither of which has existed in California for many years.
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Businesses have been leaving California due to an increasingly
hostile and oppressive regulatory environment.
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Loss of jobs is not isolated to business closing, for every refinery
job lost another 8 – 10 people working for businesses providing
goods and services will be effected and some will end up without
a job. Economy of surrounding communities and their
businesses will take a financial hit.
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How hard of a financial hit will Benica take from the refinery closure?
Will city employees end up being laid off?
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‘Every Company Leaving California: 2020-2025’
https://tinyurl.com/mr2bd25c
I think the overall communities have become too sensitive – refineries were there before all of us..
What people should do is ask how it got there? What was the process? Who and what entities were involved? Sadly in many cases it was due to opportunists who took advantages of the needs for these resources and in not often honest ways. The history of this country still to today has been grifters and robber barons scamming their way to control local markets. And general public is very naive. Take PG&E, they just sent me a “personalized video” or rather propaganda. I’m not stupid enough to swallow it and I wish more people would be the same.
Refining crude oil can be both dangerous and causes pollution, but that is why there are so many regulations surrounding them especially in California. Governor Newsom is doing his best to close them down. If you think we are paying high gas prices now, wait until two more are shut down leaving less than 10 now operating.
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Well, how many local, State, amd Federal agencies have jurisdiction over the refineries?
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Probably best to answer that question after the Phillips (Socal) and the Benicia Valero
plants stop operating, and gasoline goes up more. I’m sure the rest of the oil companies
are going to wait and see how it goes.
With oil somewhere down around $60/barrel and CA residents pay approx $5/gallon for
87 octane, stands to reason that it will get 1 or 2 dollars/gal added to current prices.
Then the state can blame the oil companies for “windfall” profits.
All refineries have issues related to air pollution standards, but none so stringent as
California. It only makes a commodity like gasoline more expensive.
Fortunately, I’m moving to a state that currently has 87 for $3.50 and will probably
remain stable.
I’m not havin’ Gavin much longer!
It’s $2.359 in my corner of Middle Tennessee.
OTOH, hasn’t this state gone EV? Sure looks like it in my neighborhood. Every other car is a Tesla. What about your neighborhood? Such there would logically be less demand for gas. Of course I think EV is a mistake and useful for local transport only. “Climate Change” was just another excuse for the elites to control us and by how we travel.
IF refiners bail on California, there are three ways to get enough gasoline
and diesel into the state. By tanker truck, railroad tank cars or by ship.
An what out of state refinery is going to spend money to make mandated
special summer blend.
Not cost effective to retrofit refinery.
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Cost of railroad transport is roughly $12 to $14 per barrel.
Rest of the country could end up with $2.25 a gallon gas and
CA will still be paying $4 to $5 a gallon.
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Isn’t wonderful what democrats have done, wonderful, trying to out
green the entire world. And you get to foot the bill, for their grand
experiment, while they pat themselves on the back.
Do not take life too seriously, you will never get out of it alive.